{"id":104352,"date":"2020-11-04T01:32:58","date_gmt":"2020-11-03T22:32:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/19-things-we-learned-from-ben-wheatleys-kill-list-commentary\/"},"modified":"2020-11-04T01:32:58","modified_gmt":"2020-11-03T22:32:58","slug":"19-things-we-learned-from-ben-wheatleys-kill-list-commentary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/19-things-we-learned-from-ben-wheatleys-kill-list-commentary\/","title":{"rendered":"#19 Things We Learned from Ben Wheatley&#8217;s &#8216;Kill List&#8217; Commentary"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2f07b61ac14\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2f07b61ac14\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/19-things-we-learned-from-ben-wheatleys-kill-list-commentary\/#Kill_List_2011\" >Kill List (2011)<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/19-things-we-learned-from-ben-wheatleys-kill-list-commentary\/#Best_in_Context-Free_Commentary\" >Best in Context-Free Commentary<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/19-things-we-learned-from-ben-wheatleys-kill-list-commentary\/#Final_Thoughts\" >Final Thoughts<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#19 Things We Learned from Ben Wheatley&#8217;s &#8216;Kill List&#8217; Commentary<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\">\n                <\/aside>\n<p><!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 3.7.7--><i data-stringify-type=\"italic\">Welcome to\u00a0<\/i><b data-stringify-type=\"bold\"><i data-stringify-type=\"italic\">Commentary Commentary,<\/i><\/b><i data-stringify-type=\"italic\"> where we sit and listen to filmmakers talk about their work, then share the most interesting parts. In this edition, Rob Hunter revisits one of our favorite cult thrillers, Kill List<\/i>.<\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<p><strong>Ben Wheatley<\/strong>\u2018s latest film, <em>Rebecca<\/em>, is new to Netflix, and while it has its fans I\u2019m sadly not among them. (I do love Hitchcock\u2019s adaptation, though!) It feels far too safe of a product for the filmmaker and is ultimately a tepid watch, but that\u2019s a first for Wheatley as the bulk of his films are anything but lukewarm and dull. Exhibit A? 2011\u2019s still brilliant <em><strong>Kill List<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Wheatley\u2019s most memorable film is among our favorites around these parts, as evidenced by its <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>earance on our list of the best cult horror <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">movies<\/a>, and it remains an absolute banger. The film shifts beautifully \u2014 and violently \u2014 from domestic drama to crime thriller to nightmarish horror, and we love it. So keep reading to see what I heard on the commentary track for\u2026<\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<h3 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Kill_List_2011\"><\/span>Kill List (2011)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\">Commentators: Ben Wheatley (director\/co-writer), <strong>Amy Jump<\/strong> (co-writer)<\/p>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\"><strong>1.<\/strong> After introducing themselves, Wheatley points out that he and Jump are also married. \u201cAt the beginning of the commentary we\u2019re married, by the end we\u2019re not sure,\u201d adds Jump.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2.<\/strong> She\u2019s not a fan of the opening scrawl that draws the cultish symbol, adding that \u201cI don\u2019t think it\u2019s necessary.\u201d Wheatley disagrees.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3.<\/strong> Wheatley wanted a few foxes running around near the couple\u2019s house, but the cost was prohibitive in part because they would have had to build a large fence around the area.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4.<\/strong> She can\u2019t recall why they show Jay (<strong>Neil Maskell<\/strong>) playing with his wife (<strong>MyAnna Buring<\/strong>) and child in slow motion. \u201cBecause it looks more menacing slowed down,\u201d replies Wheatley.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5.<\/strong> The script was written for Maskell and <strong>Michael Smiley<\/strong>, so when they shot some quick scenes in advance with the two to show financiers they were able to tell the money people that these were the actual leads.<\/p>\n<p><strong>6.<\/strong> Wheatley says a normal horror movie would feature monsters jumping out, but he\u2019s seen a great response to the more relatable horror of hearing your parents yelling at each other.<\/p>\n<p><strong>7.<\/strong> There\u2019s a cat in the film, and they had some issues because it had a cold. The trainer also mentioned that \u201cyou can\u2019t use the cats outdoors because cats don\u2019t act outdoors.\u201d This forced him to nix a scene involving the cat watching them from the shrubs, \u201csmugly.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>8.<\/strong> The priest is shot, and while they had cast his head with plans to blow it out in a bloody mess they instead ended up having to use mediocre CG instead.<\/p>\n<p><strong>9.<\/strong> Jay and Gal (Smiley) investigate the storage locker filled with porn and briefly watch something horrible on the video screen. It\u2019s never stated what they\u2019re seeing, but \u201cSmiley\u2019s imagination was so active in this scene he said he almost threw up into his own mouth.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>10.<\/strong> The librarian telling Jay \u201cthank you\u201d was Jump\u2019s idea. \u201cIt\u2019s scarier if someone asks for it,\u201d she adds.<\/p>\n<p><strong>11.<\/strong> The sequence where Jay hammers the librarian\u2019s knee cap and hand horrifies audiences and filmmaker alike. \u201cI tend not to watch this bit,\u201d says Wheatley.<\/p>\n<p><strong>12.<\/strong> Neighborhood kids had surrounded them while they filmed the bit with the two hit men carrying the librarian\u2019s body out and dropping f-bombs. The tykes were excited to see someone making a movie.<\/p>\n<p><strong>13.<\/strong> The garden where Jay is seen burying their murdered cat actually contained several buried cats.<\/p>\n<p><strong>14.<\/strong> Maskell\u2019s father worked on the film too as a gaffer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>15.<\/strong> The script originally posited that there were two warring factions within the cult and one was making a violent bid for power. Mention of it was ultimately excised, but the idea remains.<\/p>\n<p><strong>16.<\/strong> \u201cI wish there was a BAFTA for swearing,\u201d says Wheatley as he believes Maskell would easily win it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>17.<\/strong> He believes Shel is saying \u201cfucking amateurs\u201d in Swedish while threading the silencer onto her pistol.<\/p>\n<p><strong>18.<\/strong> Jump asks him to comment on the end sequence as Jay takes the knife to the hunchbacked character, and he replies \u201cI did realize as we were filming it that it might not reflect well on me as a father.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>19.<\/strong> Some people apparently interpret Shel\u2019s laughter as she dies as meaning she\u2019s in on it, but both Wheatley and Jump disagree. \u201cNow I always think she\u2019s a keen appreciator or irony there\u2026 because that\u2019s not a plan any mother would have.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Best_in_Context-Free_Commentary\"><\/span>Best in Context-Free Commentary<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote\">\u201cWe shot like half the movie in four days.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSome people don\u2019t eat tomatoes and things like that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis fucking cat.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou can keep your Jason Bourne\u2026 this is what it looks like when real men fight.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDads go too far sometimes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m always transfixed by his nipple in this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLots of filth had to be cut out of this scene.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a movie where a horrible man wins a hat.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf this was a Woody Allen film there\u2019d be a bit of jazz here.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Final_Thoughts\"><\/span>Final Thoughts<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\"><em>Kill List<\/em> remains a modern masterpiece with growing tension, gruesome violence, and a real wallop of an ending. Wheatley and Jump are fun commenters and offer an entertaining and light counterbalance to the grimness unfolding on the screen. 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