{"id":134862,"date":"2020-12-16T18:01:15","date_gmt":"2020-12-16T15:01:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/"},"modified":"2020-12-16T18:01:15","modified_gmt":"2020-12-16T15:01:15","slug":"carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/","title":{"rendered":"#Carla Qualtrough hoped Canada would embrace Ottawa&#8217;s risk-taking Liberals. Did it work?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a41339575504\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a41339575504\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/#Q_The_CERB_has_wound_down_and_youre_at_the_end_of_a_long_year_implementing_pandemic_policy_Whats_your_honest_assessment_of_that_program\" >Q: The CERB has wound down and you\u2019re at the end of a long year implementing pandemic policy. What\u2019s your honest assessment of that program?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/#Q_What_was_the_actual_process_in_place_to_tweak_the_CERB_as_you_saw_problems\" >Q: What was the actual process in place to tweak the CERB as you saw problems?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/#Q_Thousands_of_CERB_recipients_who_thought_they_were_eligible_have_received_letters_saying_they_might_have_to_pay_back_the_CERB_because_they_earned_less_than_5000_in_after-tax_net_income%E2%80%94as_opposed_to_gross_income_earned_before_tax%E2%80%94and_were_actually_ineligible_How_well_did_the_government_actually_communicate_eligibility_requirements\" >Q: Thousands of CERB recipients who thought they were eligible have received letters saying they might have to pay back the CERB because they earned less than $5,000 in after-tax net income\u2014as opposed to gross income earned before tax\u2014and were actually ineligible. How well did the government actually communicate eligibility requirements?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/#Q_Will_CERB_recipients_who_dont_meet_the_net_income_requirements_but_applied_and_received_the_CERB_in_good_faith_and_still_face_tough_circumstances_still_be_asked_to_repay_the_benefit\" >Q: Will CERB recipients who don\u2019t meet the net income requirements, but applied and received the CERB in good faith and still face tough circumstances, still be asked to repay the benefit?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/#Q_In_April_you_told_me_that_your_government_hoped_to_%E2%80%9Csensitize_the_public_to_it_being_okay_to_course-correct_in_government_and_try_things_that_are_a_little_bit_more_bold_or_risky%E2%80%9D_Do_you_think_it_worked_Are_Canadians_comfortable_with_risk-taking_governments\" >Q: In April, you told me that your government hoped to \u201csensitize the public to it being okay to course-correct in government, and try things that are a little bit more bold or risky.\u201d Do you think it worked? Are Canadians comfortable with risk-taking governments?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/#Q_The_difference_between_the_first_commercial_rent_relief_program_and_the_current_program_is_night_and_day_for_many_small_businesses\" >Q: The difference between the first commercial rent relief program and the current program is night and day for many small businesses.<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/#Q_So_do_you_think_the_public_is_willing_to_accept_governments_who_take_more_risks\" >Q: So do you think the public is willing to accept governments who take more risks?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/carla-qualtrough-hoped-canada-would-embrace-ottawas-risk-taking-liberals-did-it-work\/#Q_The_pandemic_seriously_disrupted_typical_federal-provincial_relations_How_have_those_conversations_changed_and_will_this_new_way_of_doing_business_outlive_the_pandemic\" >Q: The pandemic seriously disrupted typical federal-provincial relations. How have those conversations changed, and will this new way of doing business outlive the pandemic?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#Carla Qualtrough hoped Canada would embrace Ottawa&#8217;s risk-taking Liberals. Did it work?<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n                                                                        Carla Qualtrough was the cabinet minister who oversaw attempts to fix the Phoenix pay debacle that saw public servants paid wacky amounts, or not at all, for long periods of time. Qualtrough was also the procurement minister as a massive national shipbuilding program faced repeated, years-long delays. She was no stranger to portfolios with big problems when, back in March, she was employment minister as the bottom fell out of the economy and millions of Canadians were out of work. In April, Qualtrough spoke to\u00a0<em>Maclean\u2019s<\/em> about her government\u2019s rapid reaction to the crisis. Back then, she hoped to convince the country that governments can pull off extraordinary achievements if they\u2019re allowed to take a few risks.<\/p>\n<p>As 2020 comes to an end, Associate Editor Nick Taylor-Vaisey asked Qualtrough what went wrong during the rollout of the Canada Emergency Response Benefit (CERB) that was sent to 8.9 million Canadians, what h<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>ens to CERB recipients who applied in good faith but are actually ineligible, and how the pandemic transformed federal-provincial relations.<\/p>\n<p><em>This interview has been edited for length and clarity.<\/em><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_The_CERB_has_wound_down_and_youre_at_the_end_of_a_long_year_implementing_pandemic_policy_Whats_your_honest_assessment_of_that_program\"><\/span>Q: The CERB has wound down and you\u2019re at the end of a long year implementing pandemic policy. What\u2019s your honest assessment of that program?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>A: <\/strong>I think what served us well was the fact that we were brave enough to boldly lay on the table our limitations. We assessed that EI wouldn\u2019t work to deliver this to as many people as we wanted to. We knew our system limitations. We knew we\u2019d have to do one amount for everybody, that we couldn\u2019t have it scalable, nuanced, sophisticated, tested and piloted. We knew it had to be very simple and straightforward because we couldn\u2019t fail.<\/p>\n<p>There was no nuance to this. It was very blunt. We changed it to allow people to earn $1,000, but then people were faced with\u2014well, I earned $1,100, now I can\u2019t get the CERB. Quite frankly, that was just what the system could do.<\/p>\n<p>It felt really unfortunate, and it did sadden me to hear the individual stories where people had earned just a little bit more. They were being honest. They knew they no longer qualified for the CERB. But that was where we hoped the wage subsidy would help with beefing up people\u2019s work hours. We had designed these two programs to work together. But the wage subsidy didn\u2019t roll out as easily, and to as many workers.<\/p>\n<p>We didn\u2019t sit down and design a fulsome package of measures that was going to get us through a year and a half of a pandemic. We were living this in real time.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_What_was_the_actual_process_in_place_to_tweak_the_CERB_as_you_saw_problems\"><\/span>Q: What was the actual process in place to tweak the CERB as you saw problems?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>A: <\/strong>Eventually, we were always going to have to get people back to EI. While the system wasn\u2019t ready on March 15, it had to be ready at some point.<\/p>\n<p>While all this other stuff was going on in Employment and <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Social<\/a> Development Canada\u00a0around the CERB, and the student benefit, and the seniors payment, and the disabilities payment, people were constantly working on building capacity and changing parameters within the EI system so at some point, subsequently identified to be the end of September, we could get people back into EI.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, we were getting questions on details. \u201cI got a scholarship last year. Does that count towards my $5,000?\u201d Despite our best efforts, of course there\u2019s things that we missed, because it was such a breakneck speed to deliver it. We kept a running list of issues, and what we could fix through policy, what we\u2019d need regulatory change to do, what we\u2019d need legislative change to do, and how we could avoid multiple returns to the floor of the House of Commons.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_Thousands_of_CERB_recipients_who_thought_they_were_eligible_have_received_letters_saying_they_might_have_to_pay_back_the_CERB_because_they_earned_less_than_5000_in_after-tax_net_income%E2%80%94as_opposed_to_gross_income_earned_before_tax%E2%80%94and_were_actually_ineligible_How_well_did_the_government_actually_communicate_eligibility_requirements\"><\/span>Q: Thousands of CERB recipients who thought they were eligible have received letters saying they might have to pay back the CERB because they earned less than $5,000 in after-tax net income\u2014as opposed to gross income earned before tax\u2014and were actually ineligible. How well did the government actually communicate eligibility requirements?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>A: <\/strong>The letters were sent out to 400,000 CERB recipients. That\u2019s about four per cent of CERB recipients. What we\u2019re saying for those people is we can\u2019t validate your income. We can\u2019t tell if you\u2019re eligible or not. Help us. File your taxes. Show me proof of income. Let\u2019s try and remedy this by the end of the year.<\/p>\n<p>If you were an employee, Canadians knew pretty clearly the parameters of CERB and if they met them or not. The more sophisticated and complex your employment dynamic got, I think the harder it was to communicate clearly the eligibility.<\/p>\n<p>In my mind, I\u2019ll be super honest, I knew it was net income from the beginning. That intuitively made sense to me, because that\u2019s how CRA always calculates self-employment income.\u00a0The eligibility has not changed.<\/p>\n<p>Clearly, we could have communicated it better because there\u2019s a massive misunderstanding now that I feel really badly about, because I don\u2019t want people to feel as though somehow we changed the program, or somehow they were misled. I feel very bad that there are people in this position now who through no fault of their own honestly believed they were entitled to this, and now may be in the position of paying it back.<\/p>\n<p>Part of the deal was we\u2019re going to loosen up eligibility integrity measures at the front, but be as vigilant as ever at the back. We always knew we\u2019d have to go and verify everybody\u2019s income. We always knew that we\u2019d have to verify you met the other criteria so you\u2019re not earning both the wage subsidy and the CERB at the same time. It isn\u2019t the fun part of it, because it\u2019s tough for people.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_Will_CERB_recipients_who_dont_meet_the_net_income_requirements_but_applied_and_received_the_CERB_in_good_faith_and_still_face_tough_circumstances_still_be_asked_to_repay_the_benefit\"><\/span>Q: Will CERB recipients who don\u2019t meet the net income requirements, but applied and received the CERB in good faith and still face tough circumstances, still be asked to repay the benefit?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>A: <\/strong>I think people are going to have to repay it. We\u2019re going to work with them on when, how much per month. Right now, CRA is doing no collections of new debt. People don\u2019t have to repay it now. The CRA is saying that until it\u2019s reasonable to do so, they won\u2019t be collecting anything. Their collection activity has been halted.<\/p>\n<p>At some point, I don\u2019t know when that would be, we\u2019re going to start collecting. We have a commitment to be as compassionate as we can be. Maybe you\u2019re paying $25 a month. There are circumstances where interest can be forgiven. There are programs in existence that will help minimize the difficulty that people will face. But right now, no, there is no commitment to basically forgiving debt that was incurred in good faith.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_In_April_you_told_me_that_your_government_hoped_to_%E2%80%9Csensitize_the_public_to_it_being_okay_to_course-correct_in_government_and_try_things_that_are_a_little_bit_more_bold_or_risky%E2%80%9D_Do_you_think_it_worked_Are_Canadians_comfortable_with_risk-taking_governments\"><\/span>Q: In April, you told me that your government hoped to \u201csensitize the public to it being okay to course-correct in government, and try things that are a little bit more bold or risky.\u201d Do you think it worked? Are Canadians comfortable with risk-taking governments?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>A: <\/strong>I think the appetite for calculated errors resulting from calculated risks is a little better. I hope we don\u2019t step back into the old tendency to avoid risk at all costs. I think, overall, we are more comfortable admitting things didn\u2019t go as well as we\u2019d hoped.<\/p>\n<p>We knew the first commercial rent program would be a little more challenging because, of course, it\u2019s provincial-territorial jurisdiction and we were leaning on landlords\u2014which meant we were testing the landlord-tenant relationship a bit. It didn\u2019t end up getting the uptake or the help to people we genuinely wanted to help. And now we have a new commercial rent program that\u2019s better and goes right to the tenant.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_The_difference_between_the_first_commercial_rent_relief_program_and_the_current_program_is_night_and_day_for_many_small_businesses\"><\/span>Q: The difference between the first commercial rent relief program and the current program is night and day for many small businesses.<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>A: <\/strong>We really believed the best way to do that, given the realities of provincial-territorial jurisdiction, and who had responsibility for what, was working with CMHC and working with landlords. And then case by case, we heard of roadblocks. We had to find a way to more directly interact with people to get money into their bank accounts.<\/p>\n<p>That was one of my big lessons learned. We joke that Canadians don\u2019t walk around thinking about Section 91 and 92 of the constitution. They don\u2019t walk into a bank knowing that\u2019s Section 91 and then walk next door into a credit union and know that\u2019s Section 92, which is provincial jurisdiction. They don\u2019t think about who has responsibility. And yet that really impacted the way we could deliver, and how quickly we could deliver, during the pandemic.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_So_do_you_think_the_public_is_willing_to_accept_governments_who_take_more_risks\"><\/span>Q: So do you think the public <em>is<\/em> willing to accept governments who take more risks?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>A: <\/strong>History will tell, right? There\u2019s going to be microanalysis of all of this, but it won\u2019t have been for lack of trying, because we\u2019ve worked hard. And the public service has worked hard.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_The_pandemic_seriously_disrupted_typical_federal-provincial_relations_How_have_those_conversations_changed_and_will_this_new_way_of_doing_business_outlive_the_pandemic\"><\/span>Q: The pandemic seriously disrupted typical federal-provincial relations. How have those conversations changed, and will this new way of doing business outlive the pandemic?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>A: <\/strong>There\u2019s a lot more horizontality. Historically, the federal-provincial-territorial mechanisms had become very rigid. There was a group of employment ministers. There was a group of ministers responsible for people with disabilities. It was quite extraordinary to have somebody from another portfolio cross-pollinate. And now I really think that\u2019s become the way of doing business out of necessity. I would hope that becomes a common practice because it\u2019s way more effective.<\/p>\n<p>When my COVID-19 Disability Advisory Group has concerns about visitor policies and people with disabilities not being able to bring their attendants and support personnel into the hospital, I don\u2019t actually need to talk to disability ministers about that. I need to talk to provincial health ministers and public health agencies. So what did we do? I called the health minister and she got on a meeting with all of her provincial counterparts, and we talked about it. And my Disability Advisory Group presented to them. Literally, that would have taken years before.<\/p>\n<p>I think the interpersonal relationships are stronger. We\u2019ve taken the time to know each other. We can lean on each other. Did we win every battle? Absolutely not. Am I frustrated? Yeah. But man, it\u2019s easier to get the answers even if you don\u2019t like them.<\/p>\n<p>It was very scripted before. It was almost like a rehearsed play. Our officials would meet and agree upon what we would talk about. They would hash out almost what we would say, but not quite. Everything would be baked. A lot of work went into getting us together to talk to each other once a year. And now we talk to each other all the time. Does that send a few shivers up the backs of bureaucrats? For sure, because they don\u2019t know all of what we\u2019ll say. But man, do we get a lot more done. It\u2019s a real conversation. I think that\u2019s the legacy of this.<br \/>\n<span class=\"ctx-article-root\"><!-- --><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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