{"id":146666,"date":"2021-01-04T07:23:00","date_gmt":"2021-01-04T04:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/trumps-georgia-call-heres-the-complete-transcript\/"},"modified":"2021-01-04T07:23:00","modified_gmt":"2021-01-04T04:23:00","slug":"trumps-georgia-call-heres-the-complete-transcript","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/trumps-georgia-call-heres-the-complete-transcript\/","title":{"rendered":"#\n  Trump\u2019s Georgia call: Here\u2019s the complete transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2c997ce7215\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2c997ce7215\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/trumps-georgia-call-heres-the-complete-transcript\/#Wall_Street_Journal_Staff\" >Wall Street Journal Staff<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#<br \/>\n  Trump\u2019s Georgia call: Here\u2019s the complete tran<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">script<\/a><br \/>\n<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"article__subhead\" itemprop=\"alternativeHeadline\">\n<\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"column column--full article__content\">\n<div id=\"js-article__body\" class=\"article__body article-wrap at16-col16 barrons-article-wrap\" itemprop=\"articleBody\" data-sbid=\"WP-MKTW-0000116675\">\n<div class=\"barrons-article-ad-wrapper\">\n<div data-track=\"barrons-article-ad-wrap\" class=\"barrons-article-ad sticky_item\">\n<div class=\"barrons-main-article-ad-target sticky_target body_ad\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>       In a Saturday telephone call, President Donald Trump urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to overturn President-elect\u00a0<a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/topics\/person\/joe-biden\" class=\"icon none\">Joe Biden<\/a>\u2019s victory in the state. Trump spent much of the call\u00a0angrily alleging voting fraud, ballot destruction and other charges, while Raffensperger rejected pressure to further investigate an election in which there has been no evidence of widespread fraud.<\/p>\n<p> <strong>Read: <\/strong> Trump, on audio tape, presses Georgia official to \u2018find\u2019 more votes <\/p>\n<div class=\"paywall\">\n       Below is a transcript of the Jan. 2 call:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conference call with President Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 President Trump<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Brad Raffensperger, Secretary of State, State of Georgia<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Ryan Germany, <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/general\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"3\" title=\"General\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">General<\/a> Counsel and Assistant Commissioner of Securities, State of Georgia<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Cleta Mitchell, partner, Foley &amp; Lardner<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Jordan Fuchs, Deputy Secretary of State, State of Georgia<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Mark Meadows, White House chief of staff<\/p>\n<div id=\"cx-membership-tile\"><\/div>\n<p>\u2022 Kurt R. Hilbert, managing member and founder, the Hilbert Law Firm<\/p>\n<p><em>Transcript by Superior Transcriptions LLC<\/em><\/p>\n<p>RYAN GERMANY: He was here a second ago. This is Ryan Germany.<\/p>\n<p>MARK MEADOWS: Mr. Germany, Ms. Fuchs \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. FUCHS: Hi.<\/p>\n<p>BRAD RAFFENSPERGER: And Brad Raffensperger here.<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: OK. All right. So, Mr. President, everybody is on the line. And just so \u2013 this is Mark Meadows, the chief of staff. Just so we all are aware, on the line is the secretary of state and two other individuals, Jordan and Mr. Germany, with him. You also have the attorneys that represent the president \u2013 Kurt and Alex and Cleta Mitchell, who is not the attorney of record but has been involved \u2013 myself, and then the president. So, Mr. President, I\u2019ll turn it over to you.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: OK. Thank you very much. Hello, Brad and Ryan and everybody. We appreciate the time and the call.<\/p>\n<p>So we\u2019ve spent a lot of time on this, and if we could just go over some of the numbers I think it\u2019s pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We\u2019d be getting 25, 30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than a hundred people, and it never made sense.<\/p>\n<p>But we have a number of things. We have at least two or three \u2013 anywhere from 250 to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn\u2019t been checked. We think that if you check the signatures, a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County, you\u2019ll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people with \u2013 that \u2013 who have been forged. And we are quite sure that\u2019s going to happen.<\/p>\n<p>Another tremendous number \u2013 we\u2019re going to have an accurate number over the next two days with certified accountants. But an accurate number will be given, but it\u2019s in the fifties of thousands, and that\u2019s people that went to vote and they were told they can\u2019t vote because they\u2019ve already been voted for. And it\u2019s a very sad thing. They walked out complaining. But the number is large. We\u2019ll have it for you, but it\u2019s very \u2013 it\u2019s much more than the number of 11,779 that\u2019s \u2013 the current margin is only 11,779. Brad, I think \u2013 I think you agree with that, right?<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s something I think everyone \u2013 (laughs) \u2013 at least that\u2019s a number that everyone agrees on. But that\u2019s the difference in the votes.<\/p>\n<p>But we\u2019ve had hundreds of thousands of ballots that we\u2019re able to, actually \u2013 we\u2019ll get you a pretty accurate number. You don\u2019t need much of a number because the number that in theory I lost by, the margin would be 11,779. But you also have substantial numbers of people, thousands and thousands, who went to the voting place on November 3rd, were told they couldn\u2019t vote \u2013 were told they couldn\u2019t vote because a ballot had been put in on their name. And you know, that\u2019s very, very\u2026very, very sad.<\/p>\n<p>We had I believe it\u2019s about 4,502 voters who voted but who weren\u2019t on the voter registration list. So it\u2019s 4,502 who voted but they were not on the voter registration roll, which they had to be.<\/p>\n<p>You had 18,325 vacant address voters. They had no \u2013 the address was vacant. And they\u2019re not allowed to be counted. That\u2019s 18,325.<\/p>\n<p>A smaller number, you had 904 who only voted where they had just a PO, a post office box number. And they had a post office box number, and that\u2019s not allowed.<\/p>\n<p>We had at least 18,000 that\u2019s on tape \u2013 we had them counted very painstakingly \u2013 18,000 voters having to do with Ruby Freeman. She\u2019s a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler, Ruby Freeman. That is \u2013 that was the tape that\u2019s been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad \u2013 you, me, and everybody else \u2013 where they got \u2013 number one, they said \u2013 they said very clearly and it\u2019s been reported that they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area. And then they came back \u2013 Ruby Freeman, her daughter, and a few people. There were no Republican poll watchers. Actually, there were no Democrat poll watchers. I guess they were them. But there were no Democrats, either. And there was no law enforcement. Late in the morning, they went \u2013 early in the morning, they went to the table with the black robe \u2013 the black shield and they pulled out the votes. Those votes were put there a number of hours before. The table was put there \u2013 I think it was \u2013 Brad, you would know. It was probably eight hours or seven hours before, and then it was stuffed with votes. They weren\u2019t in an official voter box. They were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks \u2013 suitcases, but they weren\u2019t in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be \u2013 because we watched it, and they watched it for certified in slow motion, instant replay if you can believe it. But it had slow motion and it was magnified many times over, and the minimum it was was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.<\/p>\n<p>You had out-of-state voters \u2013 they voted in Georgia, but they were from out of state \u2013 of 4,925.<\/p>\n<p>You had absentee ballots sent to vacant \u2013 they were absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses. They had nothing on them about addresses. That\u2019s 2,326.<\/p>\n<p>And you had drop boxes, which is very bad. You had drop boxes that were picked up. We have photographs and we have affidavits from many people. I don\u2019t know if you saw the hearings, but you have drop boxes where the box was picked up and not delivered for three days. So all sorts of things could have happened to that box, including, you know, putting in the votes that you wanted.<\/p>\n<p>So there are many infractions. And the bottom line, it\u2019s many, many times the 11,779 margin that they said we lost by. We had vast \u2013 I mean, you have \u2013 the state is in turmoil over this. And I know you would like to get to the bottom of it, although I saw you on television today and you said that you found nothing wrong. I mean, you know \u2013 and I didn\u2019t lose the state, Brad.<\/p>\n<p>People have been saying that it was the highest vote ever. There was no way \u2013 a lot of the political people said that there\u2019s no way they beat me, and they beat me. They beat me in the \u2013 (inaudible 17:07) as you know, every single state \u2013 we won every state. We won every statehouse in the country. We held the Senate, which is shocking to people, although we\u2019ll see what happens tomorrow or in a few days. And we won the House. But we won every single statehouse and we won Congress, which was supposed to lose 15 seats and they gained I think 16 or 17 or something. I think there\u2019s now a difference of five. There was supposed to be a difference substantially more.<\/p>\n<p>But politicians \u2013 in every state, but politicians in Georgia have been given affidavits and are going to that there was no way they beat me in the \u2013 in the election, that the people came out \u2013 in fact, they were expecting to lose and they ended up winning by a lot because of the coattails, and they said there\u2019s no way \u2013 that they\u2019ve done many polls prior to the election. There was no way that they won. Ballots were dropped in massive numbers, and we\u2019re trying to get to those numbers, and we will have them. They\u2019ll take a period of time, certified. But they\u2019re massive numbers, and far greater than the 11,779.<\/p>\n<p>The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted, and I think the number is in the \u2013 close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries, they went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is when you add it all up, and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 fake ballots, then the other thing they said is in Fulton County and other areas \u2013 and this may or may not be true, this just came up this morning \u2013 that they are burning their ballots, that they are shredding, shredding ballots and removing equipment. They\u2019re changing the equipment on the \u2013 on the Dominion machines. And you know, that\u2019s not legal. And they supposedly shredded I think they said 300 pounds of \u2013 3,000 pounds of ballots, and that just came to us as a report today. And you know, it\u2019s \u2013 it\u2019s a very sad situation.<\/p>\n<p>But Brad, if you took \u2013 the minimum numbers were many, many times above the 11,779, and many of those numbers are certified, or they will be certified but they are certified. Those are numbers that are there, that exist, and that beat the margin \u2013 the margin of loss. It beat \u2013 they beat it, I mean, by a lot. And people should be happy to have an accurate count instead of an election where there\u2019s turmoil. I mean, there\u2019s turmoil in Georgia and other places. You\u2019re not the only one. I mean, we have other states that I believe will be flipping to us very shortly.<\/p>\n<p>But this is \u2013 this is something that\u2019s \u2013 you know, as an example, I think in Detroit and I think there\u2019s a section of \u2013 good section of your state, actually, which \u2013 we\u2019re not sure, so we\u2019re not going to report it yet. But in Detroit, we had I think it was 139 percent of the people voted. That\u2019s not too good.<\/p>\n<p>In Pennsylvania, they had well over 200,000 more votes than they had people voting, and that\u2026that doesn\u2019t play too well. And the legislature there is \u2013 which is Republican, is extremely activist and angry. But I mean, there were other things, also, that were almost as bad as that.<\/p>\n<p>But they had an example in Michigan a tremendous number of dead people that voted. I think it was \u2013 I think, Mark, it was 18,000, some unbelievably high number, much higher than yours. You were \u2013 you were in the 4 to 5,000 category. And that was checked out laboriously by going through birth cert\u2026by going through the obituary columns in the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/news\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"2\" title=\"News\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">news<\/a>papers.<\/p>\n<p>So I guess with all of it being said, Brad, it\u2019s \u2013 the bottom line \u2013 and provisional ballots, again, you know, you\u2019ll have to tell me about the provisional ballots. But we have a lot of people that were complaining that they weren\u2019t able to vote because they were already voted for. And these are great people, and you know, they were shell shocked. I don\u2019t know if you call that provisional ballots. In some states we had a lot of provisional ballot situations where people were given a provisional ballot because when they walked in on November 3rd they were already voting \u2013 voted for.<\/p>\n<p>So that\u2019s it. I mean, we have many, many times the number of votes necessary to win the state. And we won the state, and we won it very substantially and easily. And we\u2019re getting \u2013 we have \u2013 much of this is very \u2013 you know, they\u2019re certified. Far more are certified than we need, but we\u2019re getting additional numbers certified, too. And we\u2019re getting pictures of drop boxes being delivered and delivered late \u2013 delivered three days later, in some cases. Plus, we have many affidavits to that effect.<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: So, Mr. President, if I \u2013 if I might be able to jump in, and I\u2019ll give Brad a chance, Mr. Secretary.<\/p>\n<p>One, obviously, there is \u2013 there are allegations where we believe that not every vote or fair vote and legal vote was counted. That\u2019s at odds with the representation from the secretary of state\u2019s office.<\/p>\n<p>What I\u2019m hopeful for is, is there some way that we can \u2013 we can find some kind of an agreement to look at this a little bit more fully? You know, the president mentioned Fulton County, but in some of these areas where there seems to be a difference of where the facts seem to lead. And so, Mr. Secretary, I was hopeful that, you know, in a spirit of cooperation and compromise, is there something that we can at least have a discussion to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that\u2019s less litigious?<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Well, I\u2019ve listened to what\u2026the president has just said. President Trump, we\u2019ve had several lawsuits, and we\u2019ve had to respond in court to the lawsuits and the contentions. We don\u2019t agree that you have won and we don\u2019t \u2013 I didn\u2019t agree about the 200,000 number that you mentioned. But I could go through that point by point.<\/p>\n<p>What we had done is we gave out state senate about one-and-a-half hours of our time going through the election issue by issue. And then on the statehouse, the Government Affairs Committee, we gave them about two-and-a-half hours of our time going back point by point on all the issues of contention. And then just a few days ago we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time talking about this past election.<\/p>\n<p>Going back, primarily what you\u2019re \u2013 what you\u2019ve talked about here, focused in on primarily, I believe, is the absentee ballot process. I don\u2019t believe that you\u2019re really questioning the Dominion machines because we did a hand re-tally, a 100 percent re-tally of all the ballots and compared that to what the machine said, and it came up with virtually the same result. Then we did the recount and we got virtually the same result. So I guess we could probably take that off the table. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s an issue about that.<\/p>\n<p>I think what you\u2019re \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, Brad \u2013 Brad, not that there\u2019s not an issue, but \u2013 because I \u2013 we have a big issue with Dominion in other states and perhaps in yours, but we haven\u2019t felt we needed to go there. And just to, you know, maybe put a little different spin on what Mark is saying \u2013 Mark Meadows \u2013 yeah, we\u2019d like to go further, but we don\u2019t really need to. We have all the votes we need. You know, we won the state.<\/p>\n<p>If you took \u2013 these are the most minimal numbers, the numbers that I gave you. Those are numbers that are certified: your absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses; your out-of-state voters, 4,925. You know, when you add them up, it\u2019s many more \u2013 it\u2019s many times the 11,779 number.<\/p>\n<p>So we could go through \u2013 we have not gone through your Dominion, so we can\u2019t give them blessing. I mean, in other states we think we found tremendous corruption with Dominion machines, but we\u2019ll have to see.<\/p>\n<p>But we only lost the state by \u2013 by that number, 11,000 votes, and \u2013 779. So with that being said, with just what we have and \u2013 you know, with just what we have, we\u2019re giving you minimum \u2013 minimum numbers. We\u2019re doing the most conservative numbers possible. We\u2019re many times \u2013 many, many times above the margin. And so we don\u2019t really have to \u2013 Mark, I don\u2019t think we have to go through machines because \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: Right. Right.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: \u2013 because what\u2019s the difference between winning the election by two votes and winning it by a half-a-million votes?<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: Right.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: I think we probably did win it by a half a \u2013 you know, one of the things that happened, Brad, is we have other people coming in now from Alabama and from South Carolina and from other states, and they\u2019re saying it\u2019s impossible for you to have lost Georgia. We won \u2013 you know, in Alabama we set a record, got the highest vote ever. In Georgia we set a record with a massive amount of votes. And they say it\u2019s not possible to have lost Georgia. And I could tell you by our rallies. I could tell you by the rally I\u2019m having on Monday night. The place, they already have lines of people standing out front waiting. It\u2019s just not possible to have lost Georgia. It\u2019s not possible.<\/p>\n<p>When I heard it was close, I said there\u2019s no way. But they dropped a lot of votes in there late at night. You know that, Brad. And that\u2019s what we are working on very, very stringently. But regardless of those votes, with all of it being said, we lost by essentially 11,000 votes, and we have many more votes already calculated, and certified too. So I just don\u2019t know \u2013 you know, Mark, I don\u2019t know what\u2019s the purpose \u2013 I won\u2019t give Dominion a pass because we found too many bad things, but we don\u2019t need Dominion or anything else. We have \u2013 we have \u2013 we have won this election in Georgia based on all of this.<\/p>\n<p>And there\u2019s nothing wrong with saying that, Brad. You know, I mean, having the \u2013 having a correct \u2013 the people of Georgia are angry. And these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night, along with others that we\u2019re going to have by that time, which are much more substantial, even. And the people of Georgia are angry. The people of the country are angry. And there\u2019s nothing wrong with saying that \u2013 you know, that you\u2019ve recalculated because the 2,236 on absentee ballots, I mean, they\u2019re all exact numbers that were done by accounting firms, law firms, et cetera. And even if you cut them in half, cut them in half, and cut them in half again, it\u2019s more votes than we need.<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen and they were surprised, but they \u2013 I guess there was a person named Mr. Braynard that came to these meetings and presented data. And he said that there was dead people \u2013 I believe it was upward of 5,000. The actual number were two \u2013 two. Two people that were dead that voted. And so that\u2019s wrong. That was two.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, Cleta, how do you respond to that? I mean, you tell me.<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Because \u2013<\/p>\n<p>CLETA MITCHELL: I will say, Mr. Secretary, one of the things that we have requested \u2013 and we \u2013 what we said was, and if you look at \u2013 if you read our petition, it said that we took the names and birth years, and you know, we had certain information available to us. We have asked from your office for records that only you have. And so we said there\u2019s a universe of people who have the same name and same birth year and died, but we don\u2019t have the records that you have. And one of the things that we have been suggesting formally and informally for weeks now is to try \u2013 is for you to make available to us the records that would be necessary to confirm \u2013 (inaudible 30:46) \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: But Cleta, even before you do that \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: \u2013 that standing. That\u2019s a \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Cleta, even before you do that, and not even including \u2013 that\u2019s why I hardly even included that number \u2013 although in one state we have a tremendous amount of dead people, so I don\u2019t know. I\u2019m sure we do in Georgia, too. I\u2019m sure we do in Georgia, too. But is that we\u2019re so far ahead \u2013 we\u2019re so far ahead of these numbers, even the phony ballots of Ruby Freeman \u2013 known scammer. You know the internet? You know what was trending on the internet? \u201cWhere\u2019s Ruby,\u201d because they thought she would be in jail. \u201cWhere\u2019s Ruby.\u201d It\u2019s crazy. It\u2019s crazy.<\/p>\n<p>That was \u2013 the minimum number is 18,000 for Ruby, but they think it\u2019s probably about 56,000. But the minimum number is 18,000 on the Ruby Freeman night where she ran back in there when everybody was gone and stuffed \u2013 she stuffed the ballot boxes. Let\u2019s face it, Brad. I mean, they did it in slow-motion replay magnified, right? She stuffed the ballot boxes. They were stuffed like nobody\u2019s ever seen them stuffed before. So there\u2019s a term for it when it\u2019s a machine instead of a ballot box, but she stuffed the machines. She stuffed the ballot \u2013 each ballot went three times. They were showing here\u2019s ballot number one, here it is a second, third time, next ballot.<\/p>\n<p>I mean, look, Brad, this is \u2013 we have \u2013 we have a new tape that we\u2019re going to release. It\u2019s devastating.<\/p>\n<p>And by the way, that one event \u2013 that one event is much more than the 11,000 votes that we\u2019re talking about. It\u2019s \u2013 you know, that one event was a disaster. It just \u2013 you know, but it was \u2013 it was something that \u2013 it can\u2019t be disputed. And again, we have a version that you haven\u2019t seen, but it\u2019s magnified. It\u2019s magnified, and you can see everything. And she put \u2013 for some reason, they put it in three times, each ballot. And I don\u2019t know why, but you know, why \u2013 I don\u2019t know why three times. Why not five times, right? But \u2013 yeah, go ahead.<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: You\u2019re talking about the State Farm video. And I think it\u2019s extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context. So the next day we brought in WSB-TV and we let them show \u2013 see the full run of tape. I mean, what you\u2019ll see, the events that transpired are nowhere near what was projected by, you know \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: But where were the poll watchers, Brad? There were no poll watchers there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there. It was late in the evening or late in the \u2013 early in the morning, and there was nobody else in the room. Where were the poll watchers? And why did they say a watermain broke \u2013 which they did \u2013 and which is reported in the newspapers? They said they left \u2013 they ran out because of a watermain break. And there was no watermain. There was nothing. There was no break. There was no watermain break. But where \u2013 if you \u2013 if you take out everything, where were the Republican poll watchers \u2013 even where were the Democrat poll watchers \u2013 because there were none.<\/p>\n<p>And then you say, well, they left their station. You know, if you look at the tape \u2013 and this was \u2013 it \u2013 this was reviewed by professional police and detectives and other people \u2013 when they left in a rush \u2013 everybody left in a rush because of the watermain \u2013 but everybody left in a rush, these people left their station. When they came back, they didn\u2019t go to their station. They went to the apron wrapped around the table, under which were thousands and thousands of ballots in a box that was not an official or a sealed box, and then they took those, and they went back to a different station. So if they would have come back, they would have walked to their station and they would have continued to work. But they couldn\u2019t do even that, because that\u2019s illegal because they had no Republican poll watchers.<\/p>\n<p>And remember, her reputation is \u2013 she\u2019s known all over the internet, Brad. She\u2019s known all over. I\u2019m telling you, \u201cWhere\u2019s Ruby\u201d was one of the hot items \u2013 Ruby, they knew her. \u201cWhere\u2019s Ruby.\u201d So, Brad, you know, there can be no justification for that. And, you know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt, but that was \u2013 and, Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put them in three times.<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Mr. President, they did not put that \u2013 we did an audit of that, and we\u2019ve proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, where was everybody else at that late time in the morning? Where was everybody? Where were the Republicans? Where were the security guards? Where were the people that were there just a little while before when everyone ran out of the room? How come \u2013 how come we had no security in the room? Why did they run to the bottom of the table? Why did they run there and just open the skirt and rip out the \u2013 and rip out the votes? I mean, Brad \u2013 and they were sitting there \u2013 I think for five hours or something like that, the votes \u2013 but they just all happened to run back and go \u2013 you know, Brad \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Yeah, Mr. President, we\u2019ll send you the link from WSB that does the \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: I don\u2019t care about a link. I don\u2019t need it. I have a much \u2013 Brad, I have a much better link.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: I have \u2013 Mr. President and Mr. Secretary, I will tell you, I\u2019ve seen the tape, the full tape. So has Alex. We\u2019ve watched it. And what we saw and what we\u2019ve confirmed in the timing is that they made everybody leave \u2013 we have sworn affidavits saying that \u2013 and then they \u2013 then they began to process ballots. And our estimate is that there were roughly 18,000 ballots. We don\u2019t know that. If you know that, we\u2019d like to know the answer.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: It was 18,000 ballots, but they used each one three times. So it was the \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Well, I don\u2019t know about that, but I \u2013 what I do know \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yeah. Well, I do, because we had \u2013 we had ours magnified out. So each one magnified out is 18 times three, but \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: I\u2019ve watched the entire tape.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: But \u2013 you know, but nobody can make a case for that, Brad. Nobody. I mean, look, that\u2019s \u2013 you\u2019d have to be a child to think anything other than that. Just a child. I mean, you have your Never Trumper U.S. attorney there.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: How many ballots \u2013 how many ballots, Mr. Secretary, are you saying that Ruby was processing?<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: We had GBI, certainly, investigate that.<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: We had our \u2013 this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was \u2013 who was there after that event came to light. They GBI was with them, as well as FBI agents.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, there\u2019s no way they could \u2013 then they\u2019re incompetent. They\u2019re either dishonest or incompetent, OK? There\u2019s only two answers: dishonesty or incompetence. There\u2019s just no way. Look, there\u2019s no way. And on the other thing that I said, too, there\u2019s no way \u2013 I mean, there\u2019s no way that these things could have been \u2013 you know, you have all these different people that voted but they don\u2019t live in Georgia anymore. What was that number, Cleta? That was a pretty good number, too.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Well, the number who had registered out of state after they moved from Georgia \u2013 and so they had a date when they moved from Georgia, they registered to vote out of state, and then they \u2013 it\u2019s like 4,500. I don\u2019t have that right in front of me. It\u2019s something like that.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: And then they came back in and they voted.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: And voted, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: That was a large number, though. It was in the 20s. And you know, the point is \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: We\u2019ve been going through each of those as well. And those numbers that we got, that Ms. Mitchell was just saying, they\u2019re not accurate. Everyone we\u2019ve been through are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately. And in \u2013 and in many cases \u2013 (inaudible 38:45) \u2013 so far.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Really? How many people do that? You mean they moved out and then they said, ah, all the hell with it, I\u2019ll move back in? You know, it doesn\u2019t sound like a very normal \u2013 like you mean they moved out, and, what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? You know, it\u2019s like \u2013 (laughs) \u2013 it\u2019s crazy.<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: Well, and then this is they moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. So there\u2019s something about that data that is just not accurate.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, I don\u2019t know. We \u2013 I mean, all I know is that it is \u2013 it is certified. And they moved out of Georgia, and they voted. It didn\u2019t say they moved back in, Cleta, did it?<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: No, but, I mean, we\u2019re looking at the voter registry. Again, if you have additional records, we\u2019ve been asking for that, but you haven\u2019t shared any of that with us. You just keep saying you\u2019ve investigated the allegations.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: But, Cleta, a lot of if you don\u2019t need to be shared. I mean, to be honest, they should share it. They should share it because you want to get to an honest election. I won this election by hundreds of thousands of votes. There\u2019s no way I lost Georgia. There\u2019s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I\u2019m just going by small numbers, when you add them up, they\u2019re many times the 11,000. But I won that state by hundreds of thousands of votes.<\/p>\n<p>Now, do you think it\u2019s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that\u2019s what the rumor is. And also, that Dominion took out machines, that Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their machinery? Do you know anything about that? Because that\u2019s illegal.<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County. We\u2019re having an election on Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, but \u2013 no, but have they moved \u2013 have they \u2013 have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: No.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Are you sure, Ryan?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: I\u2019m sure. I\u2019m sure, Mr. President.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: And what about \u2013 what about the \u2013 what about the ballots, the shredding of the ballots? Have they been shredding ballots?<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: No.<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: The only investigation that we have into that, they have not been shredding any ballots. There was an issue in Cobb County where they were doing normal, you know, office shredding, getting rid of old stuff, and we investigated that. But this is stuff from, you know, past elections. And that\u2019s \u2013 and that\u2019s what it turned out to be.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: I don\u2019t know about that. It\u2019s very \u2013 it doesn\u2019t pass the smell test, though, because we hear they\u2019re shredding thousands and thousands of ballots. And now what they\u2019re saying, oh, we\u2019re just cleaning up the office. (Laughs.) You know, I don\u2019t think they\u2019re \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Well, Mr. President, the problem that you have with <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">social media<\/a>, they can \u2013 people can say anything.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, no, this isn\u2019t social. This is Trump media. It\u2019s not social media. It\u2019s really not. It\u2019s not social media. I don\u2019t care about social. I couldn\u2019t care less. Social media is big tech. Big tech is on your side, you know? I don\u2019t even know why you have a side, because you should want to have an accurate election. And you\u2019re a Republican.<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: We believe that we do have an accurate election.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, I \u2013 no, you don\u2019t. No. No, you don\u2019t. You don\u2019t have \u2013 you don\u2019t have \u2013 not even close. You got \u2013 you\u2019re off by hundreds of thousands of votes. And just on the small numbers, you\u2019re off on these numbers.<\/p>\n<p>And these numbers can\u2019t be \u2013 well, why won\u2019t \u2013 OK, so you send us into Cobb County for signature verification, right? You send us into Cobb County, which we didn\u2019t want to go into, and you said it would be open to the public and we could have our \u2013 so we had our experts there. They weren\u2019t allowed into the room. But we didn\u2019t want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County, and you wouldn\u2019t give it to us. Now why aren\u2019t we doing signature \u2013 and why can\u2019t it be open to the public? And why can\u2019t we have professionals do it instead of rank amateurs that will never find anything and don\u2019t want to find anything? They don\u2019t want to find \u2013 you know they don\u2019t want to find anything. Someday you\u2019ll tell me the reason why, because I don\u2019t understand your reasoning. But someday you\u2019ll tell me the reason why. But why don\u2019t you want to find \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: Mr. President, we chose Cobb County \u2013 we chose Cobb County \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Why don\u2019t you want to find \u2013 what?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: Sorry, go ahead.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yeah, why did \u2013 why \u2013 OK, so why did you do Cobb County? We didn\u2019t even \u2013 we requested Fulton County, not Cobb County.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Well, Mr. President, we do have \u2013 (inaudible) \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: We chose Cobb County \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: \u2013 Cobb County.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Go ahead, please.<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: We chose Cobb County because that was the only county where there\u2019s been any evidence submitted that the signature verification was not properly done \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, but I told you, but we\u2019re not \u2013 we\u2019re not saying that. We are the aggrieved \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: No, we did say that. We did say that.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: \u2013 we\u2019re the aggrieved party.<\/p>\n<p>Fulton County \u2013 look, Stacey \u2013 in my opinion, Stacey is as dishonest as they come. She has outplayed you at every \u2013 at everything. She got you to sign a totally unconstitutional agreement which is a disastrous agreement. You can\u2019t check signatures, you can\u2019t do \u2013 I can\u2019t imagine \u2013 you\u2019re allowed to do harvesting, I guess, in that \u2013 that agreement is a disaster for this country.<\/p>\n<p>But she got you somehow to sign that thing, and she is a \u2013 she has outsmarted you at every step. And I hate to imagine what\u2019s going to happen on Monday or Tuesday, but it\u2019s very scary to people, you know \u2013 where the ballots flow in out of nowhere. It\u2019s very scary to people.<\/p>\n<p>That consent decree is a disaster. It\u2019s a disaster. A very good lawyer who examined it said they\u2019d never seen anything like it. And \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Ballot harvesting is still illegal in the state of Georgia, and that settlement agreement did not change that one iota.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, it\u2019s not a settlement agreement; it\u2019s a consent decree. It even says consent decree on it, doesn\u2019t it? It uses the term consent decree. It doesn\u2019t say settlement agreement; it\u2019s a consent decree. It\u2019s a disaster.<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: It\u2019s a settlement agreement.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: What\u2019s written on top of it?<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Ryan?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: I don\u2019t \u2013 I don\u2019t have it in front of me, but it was not entered by the court. It\u2019s not a court order. It\u2019s an order \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, it\u2019s called \u2013 but Ryan, it\u2019s called a consent decree. Is that right \u2013 on the paper? Is that right?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: I don\u2019t \u2013 I don\u2019t \u2013 I don\u2019t believe so, but I don\u2019t \u2013 I don\u2019t have it in front of me.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: OK, OK. Whatever, it\u2019s a disaster. It\u2019s a disaster.<\/p>\n<p>Look, here\u2019s the problem. We could go through signature verification, and we\u2019ll find hundreds of signatures \u2013 if you let us do it \u2013 and the only way you can do it, as you know, is to go to the past. But you didn\u2019t do that in Cobb County. You just looked at one page compared to another. The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it on November whatever \u2013 recently \u2013 and compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago \u2013 you know, or even one. And you will find that you have many different signatures.<\/p>\n<p>But in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that aren\u2019t even signed, and you have many that are forgeries, OK? You know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that.<\/p>\n<p>And you will find \u2013 you will be at 11,779 within minutes because Fulton County is totally corrupt and so is she totally corrupt. And they\u2019re going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, Brad. Whether you know it or not, they\u2019re laughing at you. And you\u2019ve taken a state that\u2019s a Republican state and you\u2019ve made it almost impossible for a Republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobody has ever cheated before.<\/p>\n<p>And I don\u2019t care how long it takes me \u2013 you know, we\u2019re going to have other states coming forward pretty good, but I won\u2019t \u2013 this has never given \u2013 this is \u2013 we have some incredible talent who\u2019ve said they\u2019ve never seen anything \u2013 now the problem is they need more time for the big numbers, but they are very substantial numbers. But\u2026and I think you are going to find that they \u2013 by the way, a little information. I think you are going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned, the ballots are corrupt. And they are brand new, and they don\u2019t have seals, and there\u2019s a whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt. And you are going to find that they are \u2013 which is totally illegal. It\u2019s more illegal for you than it is for them because you know what they did and you\u2019re not reporting it. That\u2019s a \u2013 you know, that\u2019s a criminal \u2013 that\u2019s a criminal offense. And, you know, you can\u2019t let that happen. That\u2019s a big risk to you and to Ryan \u2013 you\u2019re lawyers; that a big risk.<\/p>\n<p>But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I\u2019ve heard, and they are removing machinery, and they\u2019re moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal fines, and you can\u2019t let it happen, and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I\u2019m notifying you that you are letting it happen.<\/p>\n<p>So, look \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Well, we\u2019re \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: \u2013 all I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state, and flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, there\u2019s just \u2013 it\u2019s a testament that they can admit to a mistake \u2013 or whatever you want to call it \u2013 if it was a mistake. I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of people think it wasn\u2019t a mistake; it was much more criminal than that. But it\u2019s a big problem in Georgia, and it\u2019s not a problem that\u2019s going away. I mean, you know, it\u2019s not a problem that\u2019s going away. And we\u2019ve got to \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: Mr. President, this is Ryan. We\u2019re looking into every one of those things that you mentioned.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: OK, then good.<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: And our investigators, I know them. I know our friends at GBI.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: But if you find them, you\u2019ve got to say it, Ryan. Look, if they \u2013 let me ask you \u2013 Ryan, if they are destroying ballots \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: We will. But let me tell you what \u2013 let me tell you what we are seeing.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Go ahead. Go ahead.<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: What we\u2019re seeing is not at all what you are describing. And these are investigators from our office. These are investigators from GBI, and they\u2019re looking, and they are good. And that\u2019s not what they\u2019re seeing. And we\u2019ll keep \u2013 we\u2019ll keep looking. We\u2019ll keep looking at all of these things. But what we are seeing \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, you\u2019d better check on the ballots because they are shredding ballots, Ryan. I\u2019m just telling you, Ryan. They are shredding ballots, and you should look at that very carefully because that\u2019s still illegal, you know. You may not even believe it because it\u2019s so bad, but they\u2019re shredding ballots because they think we\u2019re going to eventually get there because we\u2019ll eventually get into Fulton, you know?<\/p>\n<p>In my opinion it\u2019s never too late. In my opinion it\u2019s never too late. So \u2013 oh, a little double \u2013 a little double sound there.<\/p>\n<p>So that\u2019s the story, fellows. Look, we need only 11,000 votes. We have far more than that as it stands now. We\u2019ll have more and more, and \u2013 do you have provisional ballots at all, Brad? Provisional ballots?<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Provisional ballots are allowed, you know, by state law.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Sure. But do you have them? I mean, are they counted or did you just hold them back because they, you know \u2013 in other words, how many provisional ballots do you have in the state?<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: We\u2019ll get you that number.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Because most of them are made out to the name Trump because these are people that were scammed when they came in, and we have thousands of people that have testified or that want to testify. When they came in, they were proudly going to vote on November 3rd, and they were told, I\u2019m sorry, you\u2019ve already been voted for \u2013 you\u2019ve already voted. The women, men started screaming, no, I proudly voted to November 3rd. They said, I\u2019m sorry, but you\u2019ve already been voted for, and you have a ballot.<\/p>\n<p>And these people are beside themselves. So they went out and they filled in a provisional ballot, putting the name Trump on it.<\/p>\n<p>And what about that batch of military ballots that came in, and even though I won the military by a lot, it was a hundred percent Trump \u2013 I mean, a hundred percent Biden. Do you know about that?<\/p>\n<p>A large group of ballots came \u2013 I think it was to Fulton County, and they just happened to be a hundred percent for Trump, even though \u2013 for Biden, even though Trump won the military by a lot \u2013 you know, a tremendous amount.<\/p>\n<p>But these ballots were a hundred percent for Biden. And do you know about that? A very substantial number came in, all for Biden. (Pause.) Does anybody know about it?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: This is Ryan Germany. I \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: I know about it, but we were never \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: OK, Cleta, wait. I\u2019m not asking you, Cleta, honestly. I\u2019m asking \u2013 I\u2019m asking Brad. Do you know about the military ballots that we have confirmed now? Do you know about the military ballots that came in that were a hundred percent \u2013 I mean, a hundred percent for Biden? Do you know about that?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: I don\u2019t know about that. I do know that we have \u2013 when military ballots come in, it\u2019s not just military. It\u2019s also military and overseas citizens. The military part of that does generally go Republican. The overseas citizen part of it generally goes very Democrat. So \u2013 (inaudible) \u2013 a mix of them.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, but this was \u2013 yeah, that\u2019s OK. But I get \u2013 I got like 78 percent in the military. These ballots were all for \u2013 they were \u2013 they didn\u2019t tell me, obviously, these could be overseas, too, but I get votes overseas, too, Ryan, you know, in all fairness.<\/p>\n<p>No, they came in \u2013 a large batch came in and it was, quote, \u201c100 percent for Biden.\u201d And that is criminal \u2013 you know, that\u2019s criminal, OK? That\u2019s another criminal \u2013 that\u2019s another of the many criminal events. Many criminal events here.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know. Look Brad, I got to get \u2013 I have to find 12,000 votes and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state. That\u2019s before we go to the next step which is in the process of right now, you know, and I watched you this morning, and you said, well, there was no criminality. But, I mean, all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it\u2019s very dangerous for you to say that.<\/p>\n<p>I just \u2013 I just don\u2019t know why you don\u2019t want to have the votes counted as they are \u2013 like even you, when you went and did that check. And I was surprised because, you know, I didn\u2019t consider the check. And we found a few thousand votes that were against me. I was actually surprised because the way that check was done, all you were doing is, you know, recertifying existing votes and, you know, you were given votes, and you just counted them up, and you still found 3,000 that were bad. That was sort of surprising that came down \u2013 three or five, I don\u2019t know. It was still a lot of votes.<\/p>\n<p>But you have to go back to check from past years with respect to signatures. And if you check with Fulton County, you\u2019ll have hundreds of thousands because they dumped ballots into Fulton County and the other county next to it.<\/p>\n<p>So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes; give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already, or we could keep it going, but that\u2019s not fair to the voters of Georgia because they\u2019re going to see what happened and \u2013 they\u2019re going to see what happened.<\/p>\n<p>I mean, I\u2019ll take on anybody you want with regard to Ruby Freeman and her lovely daughter \u2013 a very lovely young lady, I\u2019m sure. But Ruby Freeman \u2013 I will take Freeman. I will take on anybody you want.<\/p>\n<p>And the minimum \u2013 there were 18,000 ballots but they used them three times. So that\u2019s, you know, a lot of votes. And that one event \u2013 and they were all to Biden, by the way; that\u2019s the other thing we didn\u2019t say. You know, Ruby Freeman, one thing I forgot to say which was the most important. Do you know that every single ballot she did went to Biden? You know that, right? Do you know that, by the way, Brad? Every single ballot that she did through the machines at early \u2013 early in the morning went to Biden. Did you know that, Ryan?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: That\u2019s not accurate, Mr. President.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Huh. What is accurate?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: The numbers that we are showing are accurate. We picked \u2013 we picked \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No. No. About Ruby Freeman. About early in the morning, Ryan, when the woman took \u2013 you know, when the whole gang took the stuff out of the \u2013 from under the table, right, do you know that \u2013 do you know who those ballots \u2013 do you know who they were made out to? Do you know who they were voting for?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: No, not specifically.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Did you ever check?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: We did what I described to you earlier.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, no, no. Did you ever check the ballots that were scammed by Ruby Freeman, known \u2013 a known political operative, ballotteer? Did you ever check who those votes were for?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: We\u2019ve looked into that situation that you described \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, they were 100 percent for Biden. One hundred percent. There wasn\u2019t a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don\u2019t you want to find this, Ryan? What\u2019s wrong with you? I heard \u2013 I heard your lawyer is very difficult, actually, but I\u2019m sure you\u2019re a good lawyer. You have a nice last name.<\/p>\n<p>But I\u2019m just curious, why wouldn\u2019t \u2013 why do you keep fighting this thing? It just doesn\u2019t make sense. We\u2019re way over the 17,779, right. We\u2019re way over that number, and just if you took just Ruby Freeman we\u2019re over that number by five or six times when you multiply it out times three, and every single ballot went to Biden. And you didn\u2019t know that but now you know it.<\/p>\n<p>So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election and it\u2019s not fair to take it away from us like this, and it\u2019s going to be very costly in many ways and I think you have to say that you\u2019re going to reexamine it and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people that don\u2019t want to find answers.<\/p>\n<p>For instance, I\u2019m hearing Ryan and he\u2019s probably, I\u2019m sure, a great lawyer and everything but he\u2019s making statements about those ballots that he doesn\u2019t know. But he\u2019s making them with such \u2013 he did make them with surety but now I think he\u2019s less sure because the answer is they all went to Biden and that alone wins us the election by a lot, you know. So \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Mr. President, you have people that submit information and we have our people that submit information, and then it comes before the court and the court then has to make a determination. We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are right.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: But why do you say that, though? I don\u2019t know \u2013 I mean, sure, we can play this <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">game<\/a> with the courts. But why do you say that? First of all, they don\u2019t even assign us a judge. They don\u2019t even assign us a judge. But why wouldn\u2019t you \u2013 if \u2013 hey, Brad, why wouldn\u2019t you want to check out Ruby Freeman and why wouldn\u2019t you want to say, hey, if in fact President Trump is right about that then he wins the state of Georgia? Just that one incident alone, without going through hundreds of thousands of dropped ballots. You just say you stick by \u2013 I mean, I\u2019ve been watching you for \u2013 you know, you don\u2019t care about anything. Your numbers are right. But your numbers aren\u2019t right. They\u2019re really wrong and they\u2019re really wrong, Brad. And I know this phone call is going nowhere other than \u2013 other than, ultimately, you know \u2013 look, ultimately, I win, OK, because \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Mr. Secretary, Mr. President \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: \u2013 you guys are so wrong and you\u2019ve treated this \u2013 you\u2019ve treated the population of Georgia so badly, between you and your governor, who wouldn\u2019t \u2013 who was down at 21 \u2013 he was down 21 points and, like a schmuck, I endorsed him and he got elected. But I will tell you, he\u2019s a disaster and he\u2019ll never \u2013 I can\u2019t imagine. The people are so angry in Georgia I can\u2019t imagine he\u2019s ever getting elected again, I\u2019ll tell you that much right now. But why wouldn\u2019t you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? Because those numbers are so wrong and \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Mr. President, please \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Mr. Secretary, Mr. President, I mean, one of the things that we have been \u2013 Alex can talk about this, we\u2019ve talked about it, and I don\u2019t know whether the information has been conveyed to your office. But I think what the president is saying and what we have been trying to do is to say, look, the court is not acting on our petition. They haven\u2019t even assigned a judge. But the people of Georgia and the people of America have a right to know the answers. And you have data and records that we don\u2019t have access to and you keep telling us and making public statements that you\u2019ve investigated this and, you know, nothing to see here. But we don\u2019t know about that.<\/p>\n<p>All we know is what you tell us. What I don\u2019t understand is why wouldn\u2019t it be in everyone\u2019s best interest to try to get to the bottom, compare the numbers? You know, if you say \u2013 because to try to be able to get to truth and that we \u2013 because we don\u2019t have any way of confirming what you\u2019re telling us.<\/p>\n<p>You tell us that you\u2019ve had an investigation of the State Farm Arena. I don\u2019t have any report. I\u2019ve never seen a report of investigation. I don\u2019t know what that is. I\u2019ve been pretty involved in this and I don\u2019t know. And that\u2019s just one of 25 categories and it doesn\u2019t even \u2013 and as I \u2013 as the president said, we haven\u2019t even gotten into the Dominion issue. That\u2019s not part of our case. It\u2019s not part of \u2013 we just didn\u2019t feel as though we had any way to be able to develop \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, we do have a way but I don\u2019t want to get into it \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Exactly.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: \u2013 because we have \u2013 we found a way in other states \u2013 Cleta, excuse me. But we don\u2019t need it \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Right.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: \u2013 because we\u2019re only down 11,000 votes, so we don\u2019t even need it.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Right. But all I\u2019m saying is \u2013 (inaudible) \u2013 not get a commitment.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: I, personally, think they\u2019re corrupt as hell. But we don\u2019t need that because all we have to do, Cleta, is find 11,000-plus votes. So we don\u2019t need that. I\u2019m not looking to shake up the whole world. We won Georgia easily. We won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But if you go by basic simple numbers we won it easily. Easily. So we\u2019re not giving Dominion a pass, on the record. I will say that.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: No, right. Exactly. We don\u2019t need it. We don\u2019t need it.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: But we just don\u2019t \u2013 you know, we don\u2019t need Dominion because we have so many other votes that we don\u2019t need to prove it any more than we already have.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: So my \u2013<\/p>\n<p>KURT HILBERT: Mr. President and Cleta, this is Kurt Hilbert. If I might interject here for a moment.<\/p>\n<p>Ryan, I would like to suggest that just four categories that have already been mentioned by the president that have actually hard numbers of 24,149 votes that were counted illegally. That in and of itself is sufficient to change the results or place the outcome in doubt. We would like to sit down with your office, and we can do it through purposes of a compromise and settlement, just like this phone call, just to deal with that limited category of votes. And if you are able to establish that our numbers are not accurate, then fine. However, we believe that they are accurate. We\u2019ve had now three to four separate experts look at these numbers. These numbers are based upon the USPS \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: And certified accountants looked at them.<\/p>\n<p>MR. HILBERT: Correct. And this is just based on USPS data and your own secretary of state data. So that\u2019s what we would entreat and ask you to do, to sit down with us in a compromise and settlement, you know, proceeding and actually go through the registered voter IDs and the registrations, and if you can convince us that that 24,149 is inaccurate, then fine. But we tend to believe that that is, you know, obviously, more than 11,779 that\u2019s sufficient to change the result entirely in and of itself. So what would you say to that, Mr. Germany?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: Kurt, I\u2019m happy to \u2013 I\u2019ll get with our lawyers and we\u2019ll set that up. That number is not accurate and I think we can show you for all the ones we\u2019ve looked at why it\u2019s not. And so if that would be helpful, I\u2019m happy to get with our lawyers and set that up with you guys.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Well, we\u2019d love to, right away.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, let me ask you, Kurt \u2013 Kurt, do you think that is an accurate number? That was based on the information given to you by the secretary of state\u2019s department, right?<\/p>\n<p>MR. HILBERT: That is correct. That information is the minimum, most conservative data based upon the USPS data and the secretary of state\u2019s office data that has been made publicly available. We do not have the internal numbers from the secretary of state. Yet, we have asked for it six times. I sent a letter over to Mr. (inaudible 1:05:10) several times requesting this information and it\u2019s been rebuffed every single time. So it stands to reason that if the information is not forthcoming there\u2019s something to hide. That\u2019s the problem that we have.<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: Well, that\u2019s not the case. There are things that you guys are entitled to get and there\u2019s things that, under law, we are not allowed to give out to you. That\u2019s \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, you have to. Well, under law, you\u2019re not allowed to give faulty election results, OK? You\u2019re not allowed to do that and that\u2019s what you\u2019ve done. This is a faulty election result and, honestly, this should go very fast. You should meet tomorrow because you have a big election coming up and because of what you\u2019ve done to the president. You know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam and because of what you\u2019ve done to the president a lot of people aren\u2019t going out to vote and a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president, OK. They hate him and they\u2019re going to vote, and you would be respected, really respected, if this thing could be straightened out before the election.<\/p>\n<p>You have a big election coming up on Tuesday and, therefore, I think that it really is important that you meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers because I know, Brad, that if you think we\u2019re right I think you\u2019re going to say \u2013 and I\u2019m not looking to blame anybody. I\u2019m not \u2013 I\u2019m just saying that, you know \u2013 you know, under new counts and under new views of the election results we won the election. It\u2019s all \u2013 you know, it\u2019s very simple. We won the election.<\/p>\n<p>As the governor of major states and the surrounding states said, there\u2019s no way you lost Georgia. As the Georgia politicians say, there is no way you lost Georgia. Nobody \u2013 everyone knows I won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But I\u2019ll tell you, it\u2019s going to have a big impact on Tuesday if you guys don\u2019t get this thing straightened out fast.<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: Well, Mr. President, this is Mark. Let me \u2013 let me just \u2013 it sounds like we\u2019ve got two different sides agreeing that we can look at those areas, and I assume that we can do that within the next 24 to 48 hours to go ahead and get that reconciled so that we can look at the two claims and making sure that we get the access to the secretary of state\u2019s data to either validate or invalidate the claims that have been made. Is that correct?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: No, that\u2019s not what I said. I\u2019m happy to, you know, sit down with or have our lawyers sit down with Kurt and the lawyers on that side and explain to him, hey, here\u2019s \u2013 based on what we\u2019ve looked at so far, here\u2019s how we know this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong. And we \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: So what you\u2019re saying, Ryan \u2013 hold on. Let me \u2013 let me make sure. So what you\u2019re saying is you really don\u2019t want to give access to the data. You just want to make another case on why the lawsuit is wrong?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: I don\u2019t think we \u2013 I don\u2019t think we can give access to data that\u2019s protected by law. But we can sit down with them and say, hey, we\u2019re looking at \u2013<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: But you\u2019re allowed to have a phony election? You\u2019re allowed to have a phony election, right?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: No, sir.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: When are you \u2013 when are you going to do the signature counts on \u2013 when are you going to do signature verification on Fulton County, which you said you were going to do and now all of a sudden you\u2019re not doing it? When are you doing that?<\/p>\n<p>MR. HILBERT: Mr. President?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: We are going to do that. We have announced \u2013<\/p>\n<p>MR. HILBERT: To get to this issue of the personal information and privacy issue, is it possible that the secretary of state could deputize the lawyers for the president so that we could access that information, that private information, without you having any kind of violation?<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, I don\u2019t want to know who it is. You guys can do it very confidentially. You can sign a confidentiality agreement. That\u2019s OK. I don\u2019t need to know names.<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: All right. Let me \u2013 yeah.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: We\u2019ve got \u2013 but we got the information. On this stuff that we\u2019re talking about, we got all that information from the secretary of state.<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: Yes. So let me \u2013 let me recommend, Ryan, if you and Kurt will get together \u2013 you know, when we get off of this phone call if you could get together and work out a plan to address some of what we\u2019ve got with your attorneys where we can \u2013 we can actually look at the data.<\/p>\n<p>For example, Mr. Secretary, I can tell you, you said there was only two dead people that would vote. I can promise you there are more than that, and that may be what your investigation shows but I can promise you there are more than that.<\/p>\n<p>But at the same time, I think it\u2019s important that we go ahead and move expeditiously to try to do this and resolve it as quickly as we possibly can, and if that\u2019s the good next step, hopefully, we can \u2013 we can finish this phone call and go ahead and agree that the two of you will get together immediately.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, why don\u2019t my lawyers show you where you got the information? It\u2019ll show the secretary of state and you don\u2019t even have to look at any names. We don\u2019t want names. We don\u2019t care. But we got that information from you. And Stacey Abrams is laughing about it. You know, she\u2019s going around saying, these guys are dumber than a rock. What she\u2019s done to this party is unbelievable, I tell you. And I only ran against her once and that was with a guy named Brian Kemp, and I beat her, and if I didn\u2019t run Brian wouldn\u2019t have had even a shot either in the general or in the primary. He was dead, dead as a doornail. He never thought he had a shot at either one of them. What a schmuck I was. But that\u2019s the way it is. That\u2019s the way it is.<\/p>\n<p>I would like you to \u2013 for the attorneys on my side, I\u2019d like you to perhaps meet with Ryan, ideally tomorrow, because I think we should come to a resolution of this before the election. Otherwise, you\u2019re going to have \u2013 you\u2019re going to have people just not voting. They don\u2019t want to vote. They hate the state, they hate the governor, and they hate the secretary of state. I will tell you that right now. And the only people that like you are people that will never vote for you. You know that, Brad, right? They like you. You know, they like you. They can\u2019t believe what they\u2019ve found. They want more people like you.<\/p>\n<p>So, look, could you get together tomorrow? And, Brad, we just want the truth. It\u2019s simple, and everyone\u2019s going to look very good if the truth comes out. It\u2019s OK. It\u2019ll take a little while. But let the truth come out, and the truth \u2013 the real truth is I won by 400,000 votes at least. That\u2019s the real truth. But we don\u2019t need 400,000 votes. We need less than 2,000 votes. And, you know, are you guys able to meet tomorrow, Ryan?<\/p>\n<p>MR. GERMANY: I\u2019ll get with Chris, the lawyer who\u2019s representing us in the case, and see when he can get together with Kurt.<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: All right.<\/p>\n<p>MR. RAFFENSPERGER: Ryan will be in touch with the other attorney on this call, Mr. Meadows. Thank you, President Trump, for your time.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: OK. Thank you, Brad. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. Thank you, everybody.<\/p>\n<p>MR. MEADOWS: Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>MS. MITCHELL: Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you very much. Bye.<\/p>\n<p>MR. 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