{"id":192285,"date":"2021-03-02T19:00:33","date_gmt":"2021-03-02T16:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/lets-talk-about-tony-and-steve-in-avengers-endgame-film\/"},"modified":"2021-03-02T19:00:33","modified_gmt":"2021-03-02T16:00:33","slug":"lets-talk-about-tony-and-steve-in-avengers-endgame-film","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/lets-talk-about-tony-and-steve-in-avengers-endgame-film\/","title":{"rendered":"#Let&#8217;s Talk About Tony and Steve in Avengers Endgame \u2013 \/Film"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a23e5523b586\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a23e5523b586\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/lets-talk-about-tony-and-steve-in-avengers-endgame-film\/#The_Scene\" >The Scene<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/lets-talk-about-tony-and-steve-in-avengers-endgame-film\/#Why_Its_So_Great\" >Why It\u2019s So Great<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/lets-talk-about-tony-and-steve-in-avengers-endgame-film\/#What_If\" >What If?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#Let&#8217;s Talk About Tony and Steve in Avengers End<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">game<\/a> \u2013 \/Film<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>                            <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-660234 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/tony-and-steve-700x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/tony-and-steve.png 700w, https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/tony-and-steve-360x154.png 360w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>(<i>Welcome to\u00a0<\/i><b><i>Great Moments in MCU History<\/i><\/b><i>, where we fondly recall great little bits that made us fall in love with the Marvel Cinematic Universe.<\/i>)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Will whatever the new Avengers team look like enjoy a character dynamic as fun and long-lasting as the one shared by Steve Rogers and Tony Stark? They\u2019ll probably be charming and have great interactions with each other, but it\u2019s hard to believe any will have such a thoroughly antagonistic bromance across so many films. The current main grump, Doctor Strange, will be mean to everyone, but that\u2019s not the same. This, of course, assumes Tony Stark and Steve Rogers won\u2019t somehow come back because\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Actually, time for a new paragraph. Did <strong><em>Avengers:\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/span><strong><em>Endgame<\/em><\/strong><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> do away with death in the MCU altogether? Not that there was much to begin with. Still, with Hank Pym back from the dead along with everyone else, his Pym Particles are probably no longer in such dramatically-convenient short supply. And Tony already took the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/sciencee\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"5\" title=\"Science\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">science<\/a> work far enough along that Hulk can push the buttons by himself. So any of these jokers can pop back in time to abduct Steve or Tony, have them do some heroic stuff in the present, and then plop them back from whence they came. Right?<\/span><br \/>\n<!-- SlashFilm_300x250_In_Post --><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh heck, why not a third paragraph? These characters have been in comics for decades and not only do they never stay dead, they hardly even age. I need to just get along with the fact that mortal consequences are never what this <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">series<\/a> should be about.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Okay, sorry about that. Assuming Tony and Steve really are done, I feel it\u2019s time to memorialize one of the MCU\u2019s greatest pleasures: their fights. And the best of them came at the beginning of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Avengers: Endgame<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wBg_0bUK_Co\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wBg_0bUK_Co<\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"The_Scene\"><\/span><b>The Scene<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Captain Marvel has just rescued Nebula and a sickly, emaciated Tony Stark from dying of boredom in space. The Avengers debrief Tony on the ending of <em>Avengers:<\/em><\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Infinity War<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and Captain America pesters him for information about their fight on Titan. Man, let the guy eat his oatmeal for a second. At this point, Tony lets him have it, and the whole thing is a bit uncomfortable and dark.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Why_Its_So_Great\"><\/span><b>Why It\u2019s So Great<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><!-- SlashFilm_300x250_In_Post_2 --><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tony and Steve have been at odds since the first <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Avengers<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. They remained at odds in <em>Avengers:<\/em>\u00a0<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Age of Ultron<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (hello, wood-splitting scene) and then Marvel made a whole movie where they beat each other up with <em>Captain America: Civil War<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No one throws a punch in this <em>Endgame<\/em> scene, yet this still feels like their biggest spat, which is odd considering Tony does most of the talking. But then, Tony always does most of the talking. Steve merely chimes in with some sensitive, but largely unemotional response whenever Stark stops for air.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As for Stark\u2019s points, some are good, some are petty, some are delirious. All are a bit over-the-top and tonally dramatic for this fun comic book film, but scenes like this are what give the last two <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Avengers<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> movies more heft than your average billion-dollar tentpole gets to enjoy.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There are two simultaneous ideas Tony goes for in his rant, always a bad idea for an argument. One is: \u201cI told you so.\u201d It\u2019s true. He did tell us so. And it all drove him a bit crazy, and wasn\u2019t very good for him or the world he wanted to protect. Nevertheless, he <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">has<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> been afraid of Thanos since 2012. Point: Tony.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But he also wants Steve to feel bad for not helping everyone out on Titan, which is cheap. Steve did not have the ability to simply fly off to a distant planet, a place Iron Man ended up only because he hopped on a spaceship already headed there. Not to mention the disregard this shows to the massive Wakanda battle Steve and everyone else waged here on Earth. Point: Steve.<\/span><br \/>\n<!-- SlashFilm_300x250_In_Post_3 --><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tony also wants to bring up old <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Civil War<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> stuff. It has the ring of truth to it, but I\u2019ve never been able to make full sense of the larger point he means to make. Avengers who did not sign the accords kept him from building his suit of armor around the world? But then Steve\u2019s kind of like, how\u2019d that work out for you, which feels like a response to a completely different prompt. Point: Rocket, for attempting to let a delirious Tony Stark go on thinking he\u2019s a stuffed animal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s a heated conversation, one starting with the spilling of food and ending with the spilling of Tony Stark, all over the floor. On top of the dialog and performances, the CG magic used to make Tony look frail sells the scene\u2019s emotional work, further cementing the ultra-depressing first act of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Avengers: Endgame<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. And to be sure, it is very nice that they let this massive film live in its misery for a while before jetting off to time-<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/trip-and-travel\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"10\" title=\"Trip &amp; Travel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">travel<\/a> shenanigans. Which are also delightful.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_If\"><\/span><b>What If?<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I mean, what if instead of fighting they hugged and bonded over their shared loss? The answer is: this film would have been garbage. No one would have watched it, and for years we would examine the phenomenal box office nosedive between <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Infinity War<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Endgame<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, which seemed like such a sure bet. So I am very h<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>y they had this tiff, their very last. Unless my Pym Particle theory comes to pass. 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