{"id":235288,"date":"2021-04-25T23:00:23","date_gmt":"2021-04-25T20:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/ben-barnes-on-whether-shadow-and-bones-general-kirigan-is-redeemable\/"},"modified":"2021-04-25T23:00:23","modified_gmt":"2021-04-25T20:00:23","slug":"ben-barnes-on-whether-shadow-and-bones-general-kirigan-is-redeemable","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/ben-barnes-on-whether-shadow-and-bones-general-kirigan-is-redeemable\/","title":{"rendered":"#Ben Barnes on Whether ‘Shadow and Bone’s General Kirigan Is Redeemable"},"content":{"rendered":"

“#Ben Barnes on Whether ‘Shadow and Bone’s General<\/a> Kirigan Is Redeemable<\/strong>”<\/p>\n

[WARNING: The following contains MAJOR spoilers for Shadow and Bone<\/em> Season 1.]<\/strong><\/p>\n

Now that you\u2019ve completely binged Season 1 of Shadow and Bone<\/em>, Netflix\u2019s epic fantasy adaptation based on bestselling YA author Leigh Bardugo\u2019s many Grishaverse books, we need to talk about General Alexander Kirigan (Ben Barnes). Or, ahem \u2014 the Darkling.<\/p>\n

Throughout the season, the powerful Kirigan manipulated Alina (Jessie Mei Li) and eventually outright used her, controlling her sun summoner abilities through a shared Amplifier. And that\u2019s not all the General was up to. He also expanded the Shadow Fold, the vast expanse of darkness filled with terrifying monsters, instead of, you know, getting rid of it as he had (sort of) promised. And when Alina eventually ditched him and his Grisha followers within the dark space, Kirigan somehow managed to survive against all the odds. Last we see him, he\u2019s crawling out of the Fold and yep<\/em> \u2014 turning the Fold\u2019s shadows into an army of walking monsters.<\/p>\n

Below, Barnes sat down to chat with TV Insider<\/em> about Kirigan\u2019s motivations, just what the villain was thinking in the season\u2019s final, terrifying moments and any looming threats to come.<\/p>\n

What were your conversations like, in regards to calling this guy \u201cGeneral Kirigan\u201d and shying away from using his only name in the books, \u201cthe Darkling\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ben Barnes:<\/strong> I know that Leigh offered the name of Kirigan from a later story, and he\u2019s said to be one who steals nobleman\u2019s names, and this is a nobleman\u2019s name. At first, I was actually a little bit hesitant. I liked the mystery of being called \u201cThe Darkling,\u201d but [I said] \u2018He sounds like a villain, so we shouldn\u2019t call him that. Can we just call him the General?\u2019 And then I realized actually, the mystery is my job. What I should take the help with is the duality and [portraying] his humanity. So, give him a name, make him a real person with a first and a last name. The mystery is playable in [me] giving the opposite of every moment. If it\u2019s about to be revealed that this man is not who we think he is, let\u2019s play a very sweet moment before that. If he says something kind of endearing, let\u2019s put a threatening moment in there as well. The unpredictability keeps him mysterious, I think. But the humanity and the warmth and the fragility and the confusion and the loneliness and all of those things that I think are all of the onion, as it were, those are the things I\u2019d rather take the help with, so I think that was the thought behind giving him that name. And also you have reveals, later on, which recognize the use of the word \u201cDarkling\u201d from the people who\u2019ve spit it at him.<\/p>\n

Is the mystery your favorite part of playing a villain like General Kirigan?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Actually, I\u2019d have to say I like stories about hope, and that\u2019s one of the things I love most about this \u2014 all of the characters are struggling with their demons and their pasts, or their caste systems, or their newfound powers, or whatever it might be. They\u2019re all struggling to understand who they are and where they belong. I think that while my character has a bit of a head start on all of that \u2014 he\u2019s the one who thinks he knows who he is and where he belongs, and then, this magical new woman comes into his life and starts to move things around. There\u2019s a shift [in him], and that question is potentially askable again.<\/p>\n

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But my favorite part [of playing a villain] is to find the warmth and the sweetness. I think it is very fun to sort of whisper the word \u201cquiet\u201d under your breath and everyone goes silent, even if you had to rehearse it five times. And it\u2019s definitely very fun to play those very muscular scenes with Mal [Archie Renaux], where you feel like you\u2019re explaining something to someone in that vaguely patronizing but alpha way \u2014 that\u2019s obviously very fun to do. But the real fun, challenge, is to find the flipside of the coin.<\/p>\n

In Episode 7, \u201cThe Unsea,\u201d we get to see Kirigan\u2019s past, which is not something I was familiar with from reading the books\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s not in the books! There\u2019s a [Shadow and Bone<\/em> short story prequel] called The Demon in the Wood<\/em>, and I think that was the original plan, to show him as a child and flashback to that story. In this case, in Episode 7, there\u2019s something a bit more explanatory in terms of the Fold. It\u2019s such a big character in Season 1 of the story, so to have the origin story of the Fold, as it were, is, I think an important element. It also shows [Kirigan] as a leader with more hope. And in the character of Luda [Kirigan\u2019s late beau], you see the Benjamin Button of him. How many loves must he have lost along the way? To be able to say to her, \u2018I\u2019m sure a hundred years feels like a long time to you.\u2019 How many more must there have been that he tried with, and lost? And how isolating and heartbreaking must that be? And then, winning wars for various kings and being punished for it. He\u2019s been abused in the way that he\u2019s now abused Alina, which is sadly all too familiar a story. I think that\u2019s an interesting thing to note, and it\u2019s real, and it relates to something that\u2019s in our world even though it\u2019s completely wild and fantastical. It\u2019s interesting to get into that mindset of the antihero for that one section of the show.<\/p>\n

Would you say that he created the Shadow Fold out of grief over losing this love, or was it an angrier emotion?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s so closely linked. There was a line in the \u201cmake me your villain\u201d scene. [Alina] said something about the Fold, and I say, \u201cthe Fold was a mistake.\u201d And she says, \u201cit was no mistake.\u201d But she doesn\u2019t know that. And I think that, yes, he intended to use the dark magic of this world to try and create an army to insist on peace, which is essentially still his agenda now, all these years later. So yes, that was his mistake. That was his moral error in terms of the method, but his intent has a purity to it, and I think his intensity to do that is fueled by love.<\/p>\n

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In the scene at the very end of the season when he\u2019s crawling out of the Fold, what do you imagine is going through his mind?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I think he believes that if he was caught in the Fold by himself that he would be done for. I think he at one point he does say, \u2018I\u2019m just a beacon for the volcra.\u2019 And they are of him. He thinks that they would just digest him. The fact that he realizes that actually, the opposite is true \u2014 he\u2019s their master \u2014 I think that\u2019s probably quite shocking. I think there\u2019s probably an element of glee and relief. He\u2019s got an extraordinary amount of vendettas that are on his mind, in terms of everyone who has a character name in the story who has tried to kill him or would like to at some point, and those who haven\u2019t betrayed him are about to. So, in terms of the story, I think instantly he would again feel quite lonely and feel very powerful. But now, we see a shift from all those years ago. Hundreds of years ago, he was determined to bring peace and protect the Grisha, and now, honestly, he\u2019s had his final go at that. Using the sun summoner and harnessing those powers in order to expand the Fold \u2014 now, he finds himself disenfranchised and without a people to protect. It\u2019s just him. I\u2019m really interested to see what that does to his humanity.<\/p>\n

Do you think he\u2019s still potentially redeemable at this point by the end of the season?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I mean, we have to believe he\u2019s redeemable or he becomes not interesting to watch. Redeemable is different from actions being condonable, though. And I think the use of power he shows and manipulation is not forgivable, so he certainly shouldn\u2019t be rewarded for it, but if he can find a way to explain and apologize essentially, and understand where he went wrong, then, we have to believe everyone\u2019s redeemable, don\u2019t we?<\/p>\n

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