{"id":295333,"date":"2021-07-09T14:05:09","date_gmt":"2021-07-09T11:05:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/a-brief-history-of-the-apple-and-epic-beef\/"},"modified":"2021-07-09T14:05:09","modified_gmt":"2021-07-09T11:05:09","slug":"a-brief-history-of-the-apple-and-epic-beef","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/a-brief-history-of-the-apple-and-epic-beef\/","title":{"rendered":"#A brief history of the Apple and Epic beef"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a41935520c8c\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a41935520c8c\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/a-brief-history-of-the-apple-and-epic-beef\/#Why_are_Apple_and_Epic_fighting\" >Why are Apple and Epic fighting?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/a-brief-history-of-the-apple-and-epic-beef\/#Epics_argument\" >Epic\u2019s argument<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/a-brief-history-of-the-apple-and-epic-beef\/#Apples_argument\" >Apple\u2019s argument<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/a-brief-history-of-the-apple-and-epic-beef\/#Whats_in_it_for_you\" >What\u2019s in it for you?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#A brief history of the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">App<\/a>le and Epic beef<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>In the last month or so, tech <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/news\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"2\" title=\"News\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">news<\/a> has been dominated by Epic <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Game<\/a>s\u2018 court case against Apple. While the ruling could bring a major pivot point for either of the companies, it might also affect us as consumers. In this story, we\u2019ll try to explain the core of the case, arguments from both sides, and how it will impact users.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Why_are_Apple_and_Epic_fighting\"><\/span>Why are Apple and Epic fighting?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>In August last year, Apple and Google booted\u00a0Epic\u2019s hit battle royale game Fortnite from their app stores. The reason was that the game company had included a payment method that evaded these stores\u2019 systems, and allowed users to buy the game\u2019s internal currency, called V-bucks, directly from Epic.<\/p>\n<p>The game company thought that was against the 30% cut taken by Apple and Google from developers was unfair, and people needed alternative methods to make in-app purchases.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"post-image post-mediaBleed aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-featured_img wp-image-1327419 js-lazy\" alt=\"Fortnite\" width=\"796\" height=\"399\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 796px) 100vw, 796px\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-796x399.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-796x399.jpg 796w, https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-280x140.jpg 280w, https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-538x270.jpg 538w, https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-270x135.jpg 270w, https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429.jpg 1200w\"\/><figcaption><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/thenextweb.com\/news\/#\" data-url=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Feditorial.thenextweb.com%2Fplugged%2F2021%2F07%2F09%2Fapple-epic-case-fortnite-analysis%2F&amp;via=thenextweb&amp;related=thenextweb&amp;text=Check out this picture on: Fortnite\" data-title=\"Share Fortnite on Twitter\" data-width=\"685\" data-height=\"500\" class=\"post-image-share popitup\" title=\"Share Fortnite on Twitter\"><i class=\"icon icon--inline icon--twitter--dark\"\/><\/a>Fortnite<\/figcaption><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-featured_img wp-image-1327419\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-796x399.jpg\" alt=\"Fortnite\" width=\"796\" height=\"399\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-796x399.jpg 796w, https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-280x140.jpg 280w, https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-538x270.jpg 538w, https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429-270x135.jpg 270w, https:\/\/cdn0.tnwcdn.com\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/1\/files\/2020\/11\/1525290294-fortnite-2-1545385429.jpg 1200w\"\/><\/noscript><\/figure>\n<p>Android users were not worried much as you can install third-party apps or app stores on your phones.<\/p>\n<p>However, if you use an iPhone, you have to use the App Store to install the apps. By that logic, you couldn\u2019t install Fortnite on your phone. Plus V-bucks were cheaper to buy outside the iOS ecosystem.<\/p>\n<p>To fight Apple\u2019s control over installing apps on your iPhone, Epic <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/2020\/8\/17\/21372119\/fortnite-apple-google-sued-epic-games-lawsuit\">filed a lawsuit against the company<\/a> in August 2020.\u00a0In May, both companies fought against each other to make their case in <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/technology-57199547\">a trial that lasted nearly three weeks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Epics_argument\"><\/span>Epic\u2019s argument<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>The game company and founder Tim Sweeny\u2019s demand is simple: scrap the 30% cut rule enforced in the App\u00a0Store and give ways for people to pay for services or install apps in a different way. Sweeny has also tried to win public sympathy with marketing campaigns, such as\u00a0<a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21367803\/fortnite-1984-apple-app-store-epic-lawsuit-commercial-short-video\">mocking Apple\u2019s 1984 ad<\/a> and #FreeFortnite.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Participated in the <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/FreeFortnite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#FreeFortnite<\/a> cup. 12 matches, 3 eliminations, 30 points. Am I the only one competing as Jellie? <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/7RgqHx0dp9\">https:\/\/t.co\/7RgqHx0dp9<\/a><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/TpxdKAnWuI\">pic.twitter.com\/TpxdKAnWuI<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic) <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TimSweeneyEpic\/status\/1297643152615014400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 23, 2020<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Epic also argued that\u00a0Apple gave special treatment to companies like <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/epic-apple-lawsuit-what-we-learned\/\">Netflix and offered them a better deal<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Plus, there was a whole argument about how Fortnite is a \u2018Metaverse\u2019, and not just a game \u2014 so Apple should treat it as a platform. There was a lot of back and forth between the two companies around the definition of a game. You can read more about that <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/features\/epic-games-apple-fortnite-metaverse-court-2936878\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The game company wanted to break Apple\u2019s illusion of App Store\u2019s quality control by bringing forward <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2021\/5\/6\/22423567\/apple-epic-app-store-policies-fortnite-trial-day-4\">developer testimonies<\/a> that complained about \u201carbitrary review processes\u201d and the issue of many \u201coutdated, low-quality apps\u201d on the app distribution platform.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Apples_argument\"><\/span>Apple\u2019s argument<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>There\u2019s no denying that the App Store for iPhones and iPads is a walled garden. But Apple says it\u2019s that way for a reason.<\/p>\n<p>Apple allows you to install third-party apps on Mac. To that argument, Apple\u2019s VP, Craig Frederighi, said that <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.engadget.com\/apple-craig-federighi-mac-os-220134152.html\">Mac is like driving a car you need to drive responsibly<\/a>, unlike iOS:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWith iOS, we were able to create something where children \u2014 heck, even infants \u2014 are able to operate an iOS device and be safe in doing so. It\u2019s really a different product.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Epic Vs Apple Explained\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/K2O1dQ2IhTA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Last month, the company also wrote a lengthy whitepaper arguing about the dangers of sideloading and how it has affected Android. It also made a strong argument about how App Store is the best protection for you against these hazards.<\/p>\n<p>Apple has repeatedly argued that the App Store helps developers earn money in a big way. In 2020, its <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2021\/01\/08\/apples-app-store-had-gross-sales-around-64-billion-in-2020.html\">gross sales were estimated to be $64 billion<\/a>. That means the company earned billions of dollars through the commission.<\/p>\n<p>When CEO Tim Cook took the stand, he evaded the question about the App Store\u2019s earnings and said he had a <span>\u201cfeeling\u201d that it was profitable. Come on Tim, you don\u2019t get to multi-trillion dollar market cap without knowing numbers, do you?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>He also said that the fee also includes Apple\u2019s intellectual property work as the company has made the platform ripe for distribution:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span>If we allowed people to link out like that, we would in essence give up our total return on our IP.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Whats_in_it_for_you\"><\/span>What\u2019s in it for you?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>If you\u2019re a user waiting for Fortnite to return to iPhones, there\u2019s no straight answer right now. It\u2019s unlikely that the federal Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers will rule entirely in favor of either of the companies. Plus, she has to go through more than 4,500 pages of testimonies. So we might not get a result soon.<\/p>\n<p>During the closing arguments, she acknowledged that the App Store had some monopolistic tendencies, but courts don\u2019t run businesses. So it might hard to pass a solid verdict like asking Apple to allow alternative app stores.<\/p>\n<p>Judge Gonzalez Rogers didn\u2019t give Epic a free pass, and <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2021\/05\/24\/apple-vs-epic-adjourns\/\">said<\/a> the company has \u201culterior motives\u201d for a favorable outcome:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Epic is here because if relief is granted, they go from a multibillion-dollar company to a maybe-trillion-dollar company, who knows. But they won\u2019t do it out of the kindness of their heart.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It\u2019s important to keep in mind that Apple has earned over <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2021\/05\/19\/apple-earned-over-100-million-from-fortnite\/\">$100 million from Fortnite<\/a>, as revealed during the trial. While the iPhone maker is now a $2 trillion market cap company, it\u2019s no small amount by any means.<\/p>\n<p>There is a chance that the judge might ask Apple to tweak its guidelines, and Epic to make some compromises to its stance.<\/p>\n<p>As Cook said during the trial, \u201cThe user is caught between two companies.\u201d It\u2019s best for these two to make amends.<\/p>\n<p><i>Did you know we have a newsletter all about consumer tech? 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