{"id":303488,"date":"2021-07-20T16:23:44","date_gmt":"2021-07-20T13:23:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/superhero-comic-credits-become-a-source-of-contention-film\/"},"modified":"2021-07-20T16:23:44","modified_gmt":"2021-07-20T13:23:44","slug":"superhero-comic-credits-become-a-source-of-contention-film","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/superhero-comic-credits-become-a-source-of-contention-film\/","title":{"rendered":"#Superhero Comic Credits Become a Source of Contention \u2013 \/Film"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a3db82a053ec\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a3db82a053ec\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/superhero-comic-credits-become-a-source-of-contention-film\/#The_Plight_of_Unsung_Comic_Book_Creators\" >The Plight of Unsung Comic Book Creators<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/superhero-comic-credits-become-a-source-of-contention-film\/#Down_in_the_Dungeon_of_Heroes\" >Down in the Dungeon of Heroes<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#Superhero Comic Credits Become a Source of Contention \u2013 \/Film<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>                            <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-685364 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/captain-america-the-winter-soldier-bucky-e1588002354414-700x311.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"311\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/captain-america-the-winter-soldier-bucky-e1588002354414.jpeg 700w, https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/captain-america-the-winter-soldier-bucky-e1588002354414-360x160.jpeg 360w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a long history of comic book writers and artists\u00a0seeing characters they created turn a considerable profit,\u00a0most of which never filters back to them personally. <strong>Jerry Siegel<\/strong> and <strong>Joe Schuster<\/strong>, for instance, sold the rights to <strong>Superman<\/strong> to Detective Comics (now known as DC) back in 1938\u00a0for a scant $130.\u00a0This was long before the character had become a screen icon whose films have since <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.the-numbers.com\/movies\/franchise\/Superman#tab=summary\">grossed over $2.5 billion<\/a> at the worldwide box office.<\/p>\n<p>Now, more superhero creators are starting to speak out about the business practices that have left some of them relegated to the sidelines while their work-for-hire ideas make big money for studios like <strong>Disney<\/strong> and <strong>Warner Bros.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!-- SlashFilm_300x250_In_Post -->Writer <strong>Ed Brubaker<\/strong>, who resurrected Bucky Barnes as the Winter Soldier in Marvel Comics, <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>eared on Kevin Smith and Marc Bernardin\u2019s <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/movies\/movie-news\/marvel-and-dcs-shut-up-money-comic-creators-go-public-over-pay-1234983043\/\">Fatman Beyond<\/a> podcast earlier this year, where he laid out his feelings on the character\u2019s appearance in the Disney+ show <em><strong>The\u00a0Falcon and the Winter Soldier<\/strong>. <\/em>According to\u00a0Brubaker (via <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/movies\/movie-news\/marvel-and-dcs-shut-up-money-comic-creators-go-public-over-pay-1234983043\/\">The Hollywood Reporter<\/a>), he made more\u00a0money from residuals as a cameo actor in <em>Captain America: The Winter Soldier<\/em> than he did as the Winter Soldier\u2019s original comics creator.<\/p>\n<p>In an interview with <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/interviews\/22454722\/black-panther-comics-ending-ta-nehisi-coates-interview\">Polygon<\/a>, writer <strong>Ta-Nehisi Coates<\/strong> \u2014 who had a memorable run on Marvel\u2019s <em>B<strong>lack Panther<\/strong><\/em> comic and is now attached to pen an upcoming Superman film \u2014 seemed to echo Brubaker. Speaking of his own experience with Marvel, he said, \u201cI wish that Marvel found better ways to compensate the creators who helped make Black Panther <em>Black Panther<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-411975 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/batmanandbill-comic-pages-700x311.jpg\" alt=\"Batman and Bill Trailer\" width=\"700\" height=\"311\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/batmanandbill-comic-pages.jpg 700w, https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/batmanandbill-comic-pages-360x160.jpg 360w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"The_Plight_of_Unsung_Comic_Book_Creators\"><\/span>The Plight of Unsung Comic Book Creators<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Some creators who have spoken out have been able to negotiate greater compensation from\u00a0Marvel, DC, and their parent companies. One unnamed source likened this to \u201cshut-up money,\u201d while Marvel itself is said to regard such payments as thank-you gifts, since its <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">movies<\/a> often draw inspiration from comics without directly adapting them.\u00a0Unfortunately,\u00a0it\u2019s not unheard of for other creators to feel less satisfied, languishing in relative obscurity, while the superheroes they invented go on to become big cash cows for multi<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">media<\/a> conglomerates.<\/p>\n<p>It was only in 2015\u00a0that artist <strong>Bill Finger<\/strong> finally received proper credit as the co-creator of <strong>Batman<\/strong>. For years, DC credited\u00a0<strong>Bob Kane<\/strong> as Batman\u2019s sole creator. Finger\u2019s struggle to receive credit was documented in the film\u00a0<em>Batman &amp; Bill<\/em>, and he\u2019s just one of many creators who, while not altogether forgotten, look to have been at least partially bilked out of their share of the recognition for creating iconic superheroes.<br \/>\n<!-- SlashFilm_300x250_In_Post_2 -->There\u2019s also the complicated legacy of <strong>Stan Lee<\/strong> and <strong>Jack Kirby<\/strong>. Lee\u00a0was a beloved figure, known for his frequent cameos in Marvel movies and his soapboxes and editorial replies in the letters pages of\u00a0Marvel Comics. Kirby went on to create the New Gods for DC Comics, but over the years, his name fell by the wayside. To the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/general\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"3\" title=\"General\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">general<\/a> public, he was never the grandfatherly face of Marvel like Lee was.<\/p>\n<p>As THR notes, sometimes partners have even gone behind each other\u2019s backs or fought publicly in an effort to receive sole credit. <strong>Len Wein<\/strong> notably received more money for creating Lucius Fox, Morgan Freeman\u2019s supporting character in the <em>Dark Knight<\/em> trilogy, than he did for creating Wolverine, the hero embodied by Hugh Jackman across nine different X-Men films.<\/p>\n<p>Consider, also, the case of\u00a0<strong>Jim Starlin<\/strong>, who created Gamora and Drax, two important members of the <em>Guardians of the Galaxy<\/em>. Starlin wrote <em>The Infinity Gauntlet<\/em> miniseries, which inspired key plot points in <em>Avengers: Infinity War<\/em>. He also created Thanos, the villain and arguably the real star of the movie.<\/p>\n<p>Yet it was a lesser-known DC villain called K.G. Beast, AKA\u00a0Anatoli Knyazev, who\u00a0earned Starlin more money. Said character appeared briefly in <em>Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice<\/em>, with actor\u00a0Callan Mulvey portraying him. Mulvey also played another bad guy, one of the HYDRA agents embedded in the S.H.I.E.L.D. organization, in <em>Captain America: The Winter Soldier.\u00a0<\/em>Back in 2017, Starlin wrote <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/jim.starlin.94\/posts\/1558674220814277\">on Facebook<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cJust received a very big check from D.C. Entertainment for my participation in Batman V Superman, Dawn of Justice (Anatoli Knyyazev), much bigger than anything I\u2019ve gotten for Thanos, Gamora and Drax showing up in any of the various Marvel movies they appeared in, combined.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><!-- SlashFilm_300x250_In_Post_3 --><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-685462\" src=\"https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/spawn-10-700x532.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"532\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/spawn-10.jpeg 700w, https:\/\/d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net\/wp\/wp-content\/images\/spawn-10-360x274.jpeg 360w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Down_in_the_Dungeon_of_Heroes\"><\/span>Down in the Dungeon of Heroes<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Fans who grew up reading Image Comics in the 1990s\u00a0may remember the special issue of <strong>Todd McFarlane<\/strong>\u2018s <em>Spawn<\/em>, guest-written by <strong>Dave Sim<\/strong>, where Spawn encountered a dungeon with famous superhero arms hanging out of it. Since then, Sim has courted controversy <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dave_Sim#Controversies\">for other reasons<\/a> and\u00a0McFarlane has had <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/comic-riffs\/post\/long-spawn-dispute-settled-neil-gaiman-says-case-is-good-for-creators-incredibly-good-for-copyright\/2012\/01\/30\/gIQAyoTvdQ_blog.html\">his own legal issues<\/a> with <strong>Neil Gaiman<\/strong> over the character of Angela, who is now owned by Marvel. Yet it\u2019s hard to forget that image, with creators \u2014 company men \u2014 hooded and lined up like a shooting gallery outside the dungeon.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey are heroes,\u201d it read. \u201cChampions. Watchmen. Avengers. Defenders. Men of Steel. Women of Tomorrow. Gods of Thunder. They are justice. They are nobility. They are trapped \u2026 they are screaming. Behind me, the hooded men tremble. Beneath their hoods, they are weeping.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of thunder and gods, the term \u201cstealing [one\u2019s] thunder\u201d supposedly originated\u00a0when a frustrated playwright caught a theater that rejected him using his own patented thunder effect, during a performance of\u00a0<em>Macbeth<\/em>. It\u2019s a little different when comic book creators sign a legally binding contract whereby they agree to work in-house for a House of Ideas like Marvel,\u00a0giving up any rights\u00a0to characters they have created while affiliated with the company.<\/p>\n<p>Still, imagine watching a superhero film or TV character you helped create become a big success, raking in millions upon billions of dollars all around the world, only to see the closing credits roll without your name in them. Many movies do list comic book writers and artists as creative consultants and thank them by name in the credits, so this isn\u2019t necessarily the experience of every creator or even most creators. However, one can\u2019t help but think that some of them deserved better over the years in terms of royalties and\/or recognition.<\/p>\n<p>                            <strong>Cool Posts From Around the Web:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>                            <!-- \/post -->\n                        <\/div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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