{"id":343088,"date":"2021-09-23T02:25:10","date_gmt":"2021-09-22T23:25:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/35-things-we-learned-from-justin-lins-f9-the-fast-saga-commentary\/"},"modified":"2021-09-23T02:25:10","modified_gmt":"2021-09-22T23:25:10","slug":"35-things-we-learned-from-justin-lins-f9-the-fast-saga-commentary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/35-things-we-learned-from-justin-lins-f9-the-fast-saga-commentary\/","title":{"rendered":"#35 Things We Learned from Justin Lin&#8217;s &#8216;F9: The Fast Saga&#8217; Commentary"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a3077a9ab49f\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a3077a9ab49f\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/35-things-we-learned-from-justin-lins-f9-the-fast-saga-commentary\/#F9_2021\" >F9 (2021)<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/35-things-we-learned-from-justin-lins-f9-the-fast-saga-commentary\/#Best_in_Context-Free_Commentary\" >Best in Context-Free Commentary<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/35-things-we-learned-from-justin-lins-f9-the-fast-saga-commentary\/#Final_Thoughts\" >Final Thoughts<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/35-things-we-learned-from-justin-lins-f9-the-fast-saga-commentary\/#Recommended_Reading\" >Recommended Reading<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#35 Things We Learned from Justin Lin&#8217;s &#8216;F9: The Fast Saga&#8217; Commentary<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<figure class=\"sf-entry-featured-media \"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"451\" src=\"https:\/\/filmschoolrejects.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/f9.jpg\" class=\"articlethumb wp-post-image\" alt=\"Michelle Rodriguez and a big baby in F9\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><br \/>\n                        <span class=\"sf-entry-flag sf-entry-flag-creditline\">Universal<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p><!-- START BYLINE --><\/p>\n<div class=\"row align-items-center justify-content-center my-4 text-center medium dark-gray\">\n            By\u00a0Rob Hunter\u00a0\u00b7 Published on September 22nd, 2021\n            <\/div>\n<p>        <!-- END BYLINE --><\/p>\n<p>        <i data-stringify-type=\"italic\">Welcome to\u00a0<\/i><b data-stringify-type=\"bold\"><i data-stringify-type=\"italic\">Commentary Commentary,<\/i><\/b><i data-stringify-type=\"italic\"> where we sit and listen to filmmakers talk about their work, then share the most interesting parts. In this edition, Rob Hunter presses the pedal to the medal with the latest entry in the The Fast Saga, F9<\/i>.<\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<p>Whether you love or hate the <em>Fast &amp; Furious<\/em> franchise, there\u2019s no denying the behemoth it has become. From a movie about street racing and minor thefts to giant blockbusters dealing with international espionage, world-threatening tech, and more, this is an escalating <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">series<\/a> of over-the-top, nonsense-fueled shenanigans. The latest entry, <strong><em>F9<\/em><\/strong>, is no different and sees some of the gang finally head to space\u2026 because why not?<\/p>\n<p>The film is new to disc complete with an <em>F9<\/em> commentary from <strong>Justin Lin<\/strong>. This is his fifth time behind the wheel of a <em>Fast<\/em> film, and he has plenty to share about where the franchise has been, where it\u2019s going, and what the hell is h<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>ening in <em>F9<\/em>. Keep reading to see what I heard on the director\u2019s cut commentary for <em>F9<\/em>!<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"F9_2021\"><\/span>F9 (2021)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\">Commentator: Justin Lin (director, co-writer)<\/p>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\"><strong>1.<\/strong> Lin has been a fan of the Universal Pictures logo since childhood, and he chose this older style one to coincide with the opening late 80s-set flashback.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2.<\/strong> He feels that <strong>Vinnie Bennett<\/strong> embodies young Dom Toretto well \u201cbut at the same time brings something that is original and new to the character.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>3.<\/strong> Lin loved the concept of bringing in a lost Toretto, someone never mentioned across the previous eight films, but he was incredibly nervous that they wouldn\u2019t be able to find someone to help pull it off. He met with <strong>John Cena<\/strong>, though, and \u201cwithin the first thirty seconds I was able to breathe.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>4.<\/strong> He and <strong>Vin Diesel<\/strong> have been talking about a \u201cfinal chapter in the saga\u201d for a decade. This is the first entry in that chapter, and while he thought he was done with the franchise after <em>Fast &amp; Furious 6<\/em> (2013) he realized these final story beats needed to be told. He sees it as having the characters explore the mythologies of their past so they can keep moving forward.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5.<\/strong> One of the scenes restored into the director\u2019s cut is a brief reunion between Dom and Mia (<strong>Jordana Brewster<\/strong>) when she arrives to babysit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>6.<\/strong> Phuket, Thailand stands in for the Central American country the team heads to early on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>7.<\/strong> Lin helped moved the franchise into \u201cworld-ending\u201d scenarios with <em>Fast 6<\/em>, but he was torn on doing it again for <em>F9<\/em>. He ultimately decided he had to respect where the franchise went after he left \u2014 \u201cit\u2019s kind of gone a lot more sci-fi\u201d \u2014 and while it took some effort he felt it was the right thing to do. Lin does suggest that this might be the last such endeavor, adding \u201cas we going into our final chapter, we\u2019re gonna be exploring our characters through other elements.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>8.<\/strong> He wanted to start the action with a more tactile sequence, hence the cars running and exploding through a minefield. \u201cIt was a very conscious effort to rebuild the tone of this franchise,\u201d he says, adding that while CG is a big part of blockbuster filmmaking these days he thinks \u201cthere\u2019s something really exciting and visceral about practical effects.\u201d To that end, regardless of how outlandish the action sequence, \u201cwe always make sure that we shoot it practically first.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>9,<\/strong> \u201cYou don\u2019t notice it,\u201d says Lin, but he admits that the real cars don\u2019t always allow for the shots and angles that he wants, so he uses physical or digital trickery. The shot at 22:58 is an example as the Mustang\u2019s open doors don\u2019t actually offer that right angle view.<\/p>\n<p><strong>10.<\/strong> The script approached two-hundred-pages at one point before they came to their senses and trimmed it down.<\/p>\n<p><strong>11.<\/strong> Dom recounts beating a man with a wrench in the very first <em>Fast &amp; the Furious<\/em> film, saying he kept swinging and hitting until his arms went numb. We finally see the event here via a flashback, and Dom only hits the guy once. They did tests and realized that more than a single blow would start crushing the skull, so they knew they couldn\u2019t have him actually turn the guy\u2019s head into pulp. So yes, Dom is a lying son of a bitch.<\/p>\n<p><strong>12.<\/strong> Lin\u2019s <em>F9<\/em> commentary teases future films when he mentions Cipher\u2019s (<strong>Charlize Theron<\/strong>) comment about Jakob\u2019s (Cena) jawline, the Nordic strain, and it\u2019s a tip-off to where upcoming films will be going. \u201cI\u2019m not gonna spoil it here, because I\u2019m hoping that in the next few years we\u2019re gonna be able to tell that story.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>13.<\/strong> A scene is added at 40:00 that answers \u201chow can they afford all their transportation, all their cars?!\u201d It doesn\u2019t actually answer that, but it\u2019s a fun little beat with Roman (<strong>Tyrese Gibson<\/strong>), Tej (<strong>Ludacris<\/strong>), and Ramsey (<strong>Nathalie Emmanuel<\/strong>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>14.<\/strong> Lin recalls meeting with Diesel to discuss a cameo at the end of <em>Tokyo Drift<\/em>. \u201cI had heard that there\u2019s no way he was coming back to the franchise,\u201d but they connected on the mythology, and Diesel should be *very* grateful to Lin for pulling him back in to this money-printing enterprise.<\/p>\n<p><strong>15.<\/strong> \u201cWhen we do these films, these driving scenes are the most artificial feeling,\u201d says Lin, perhaps unaware of the irony. The scenes involve green screens, motion rigs, and more meant to simulate driving \u2014 probably the simplest of the action beats in these films.<\/p>\n<p><strong>16.<\/strong> Another deleted scene at 54:10 shows the car that Sean (<strong>Lucas Black<\/strong>) wrecks in <em>Tokyo Drift<\/em> is now sitting in a Tokyo garage. \u201cIt was a big deal\u201d getting the car shipped to London, painted, etc, and then he cut the sequence anyway.<\/p>\n<p><strong>17.<\/strong> Lin\u2019s <em>F9<\/em> commentary touches on real-world concerns when he recalls <strong>Michelle Rodriguez<\/strong>\u2018s public comments about the treatment of female characters in the franchise and says it \u201cwas really weird for me because when I was part of the franchise I always felt like our female characters were so\u2026 I had such a great time crafting them with the actors and building the characters.\u201d He says he doesn\u2019t know what happened after he left but acknowledges that Rodriguez was upset.<\/p>\n<p><strong>18.<\/strong> <strong>Helen Mirren<\/strong> insisted on learning how to drive the Noble during Queenie\u2019s chase, and she did so quickly and never lost continuity in her movements while filming.<\/p>\n<p><strong>19.<\/strong> Lin had no engagement with the franchise after he left \u2014 he directed films three through six \u2014 so he was surprised to discover what unfolded in the eighty film, <em>The Fate of the Furious<\/em>. (Check out what we learned from that film\u2019s commentary here.) Han (<strong>Sung Kang<\/strong>) is killed in part six at the hands of Deckard Shaw (<strong>Jason Statham<\/strong>), but part eight sees Shaw join the family to fight a common foe and then celebrate with everyone at a barbecue. \u201cTo this day I have no idea why it was handled that way.\u201d He acknowledges that retcons are part of the franchise, but he went so far as to sit and talk with studio executives asking what happened \u201cand nobody could give me an answer.\u201d All of that said, he says that \u201cif they actually did handle it correctly then Han would probably stay dead.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>20.<\/strong> The original plan to offer #JusticeForHan was going to keep him dead and address it all via flashbacks, but Lin wisely changed course on that idea.<\/p>\n<p><strong>21.<\/strong> Lin says creativity in Hollywood is something you often have to fight for, especially when it comes to big movies. This franchise is different, though, in that they fully embrace ridiculous ideas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>22.<\/strong> The kids losing their phones at 1:20:50 belong to Lin, Brewster, and others on the cast\/crew. \u201cWhen we started there were no kids,\u201d but as they arrived and grew over the years they started adding them into the mix \u201cto connect with humanity in the middle of set-pieces.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>23.<\/strong> He says there\u2019s logic to the electromagnet gags and action beats. Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p><strong>24.<\/strong> Lin\u2019s <em>F9<\/em> commentary reveals that he also hopes to revisit adventures with Han, Gisele (<strong>Gal Gadot<\/strong>), and Mr. Nobody (<strong>Kurt Russell<\/strong>) in future films.<\/p>\n<p><strong>25.<\/strong> <strong>Anna Sawai<\/strong> auditioned for Elle, and as is the norm to avoid spoilers, the name was just a placeholder at the time. \u201cBut when I saw the audition with Anna the way she said \u201cElle\u201d was so, something about it felt so right,\u201d they he made it the actual character name.<\/p>\n<p><strong>26.<\/strong> That\u2019s Diesel\u2019s son playing Dom as a kid at 1:42:08.<\/p>\n<p><strong>27.<\/strong> People had joked for years about the franchise going to space, and \u201cto be honest, I wasn\u2019t sure if we were ever gonna be able to do it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>28.<\/strong> \u201cThis was not going to be James Bond where it\u2019s the same characters just going through different adventures, we were gonna honor these characters as they grow.\u201d I\u2019m not sure Lin has seen the Daniel Craig Bond films?<\/p>\n<p><strong>29.<\/strong> They spoke with a NASA engineer about the space-set sequence, and \u201cat first he just thought we were crazy.\u201d He got more in tune with them, though, when he realized Lin was serious about wanting to get as many of the specifics right as possible.<\/p>\n<p><strong>30.<\/strong> Roman\u2019s comment that \u201cYou know ain\u2019t nobody gonna believe us, right?\u201d was an improv, but Lin loves it as an observation not just on the space adventure but on the franchise itself. None of them could have imagined the global phenomenon that would arise from the earlier, far smaller films.<\/p>\n<p><strong>31.<\/strong> Lin\u2019s <em>F9<\/em> commentary really wants us to believe the magnet tech is realistic despite the continuous inconsistencies, and he actually shot footage showing the more detailed controls on Mia\u2019s laptop but \u201cit was an overload of intel.\u201d Simpler is better for a film like this.<\/p>\n<p><strong>32.<\/strong> The crew spends so much time, ammo, and magnetic carnage trying to stop the Armadillo \u2014 the big truck \u2014 but he never addresses why they don\u2019t just shoot the damn tires. That gatling gun would pop those puppies in a heartbeat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>33.<\/strong> There\u2019s an extra beat in the final action set-piece added back for the extended cut as the upside down Armadillo \u2014 still sliding, improbably, minutes after flipping onto its roof \u2014 that sees the truck and cars slapping through buildings, girders, and construction sites.<\/p>\n<p><strong>34.<\/strong> Lin had brought Statham in for the end of part six but then decided to leave the franchise. Statham said that if Lin left he would leave too, but the director convinced him to stay with it\u2026 and bringing him back for the end credits tag here is a hint of what more is to come for the character.<\/p>\n<p><strong>35.<\/strong> Lin doesn\u2019t mention a crossover with <em>Jurassic Park<\/em> and makes no utterance of <strong>Dwayne Johnson<\/strong>\u2018s name.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Best_in_Context-Free_Commentary\"><\/span>Best in Context-Free Commentary<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote\">\u201cEven on films with huge budgets like this one, still, you never have enough money.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s amazing how filmmaking has become so global.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is actually one of the most pivotal moments in <em>Fast<\/em> lore.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA lot of people are saying \u2018how could John Cena be Vin Diesel\u2019s brother?\u2019 And that\u2019s something we talked about.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s always better to have more than less.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI love Michael Rooker.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt still blows me away that they allowed us to be so close to Buckingham Palace.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s no right or wrong way to make films, and sometimes you just have to go with your gut.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Final_Thoughts\"><\/span>Final Thoughts<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\">While he doesn\u2019t spill specifics, Lin\u2019s <em>F9<\/em> commentary gives hints as to where the final two films will be heading. Again, no dinosaurs, but we will see more with Cipher, Han, Shaw, Jakob, and others. He suggests the next two won\u2019t be world-ending affairs, but we\u2019ll see how that shakes out. For now, Lin\u2019s <em>F9<\/em> commentary is a solid listen offering insight and explanations as to choices made throughout.<\/p>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\">Read more Commentary Commentary from the archives.<\/p>\n<p>        Related Topics: Commentary Commentary, F9, Justin Lin<br \/>\n        <!-- AUTHOR BOX --><\/p>\n<div class=\"gray-bg p-4 border small mb-5\">\n<div class=\"row align-items-center text-md-center\">\n<div class=\"col-md-2\">\n            <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/dca6f7118e64ea9aa6ef4f60221cfe7e?s=96&amp;d=mm&amp;r=x\" class=\"circle img-fluid\" width=\"100px\" height=\"100px\"\/><\/div>\n<div class=\"col-md\">\n            Rob Hunter has been writing for Film School Rejects since before you were born, which is weird seeing as he&#8217;s so damn young. 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