{"id":381686,"date":"2021-12-16T05:56:53","date_gmt":"2021-12-16T02:56:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/giants-could-be-worse-and-they-have-been\/"},"modified":"2021-12-16T05:56:53","modified_gmt":"2021-12-16T02:56:53","slug":"giants-could-be-worse-and-they-have-been","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/giants-could-be-worse-and-they-have-been\/","title":{"rendered":"#Giants could be worse \u2014 and they have been"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;<strong>#Giants could be worse \u2014 and they have been<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n<aside class=\"single__inline-module alignleft\">\n<div class=\"inline-module inline-module--columnist inline-module--author\">\n<div class=\"inline-module--author__img\">\n            <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"76\" height=\"69\" src=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/08\/mike-vaccaro.png?w=76&amp;h=69&amp;crop=1\" class=\"attachment-nyp_columnist size-nyp_columnist\" alt=\"Mike Vaccaro\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/08\/mike-vaccaro.png 76w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/08\/mike-vaccaro.png?w=38 38w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 76px) 100vw, 76px\"\/>      <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p>In a week we will be inching up on the 10th anniversary of the Giants\u2019 Victor Cruz <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Game<\/a> against the Jets, which means we will begin a month of 10th-anniversary benchmarks that will bypass nostalgia, bypass melancholy and take the passing lane all the way to depressing, because every one will be a stark reminder of where the Giants were Then.<\/p>\n<p>And where they are Now.<\/p>\n<p>And sometimes, the chasm between the two can feel like the Grand Canyon. How do you even begin? Just thinking about it can be exhausting. And Giants fans of a certain age have an extra added burden: the hard-to-shake sense of d\u00e9j\u00e0 vu. Which is why you hear the name \u201cGeorge Young\u201d an awful lot these days. Which is why Giants fans talk about rented planes and furious signs, and the wistful days of burning season tickets in steel drums.<\/p>\n<p>I am not here to serve as the cartoon dog, festooned with fedora in that ubiquitous internet meme, sipping coffee and declaring \u201cThis is fine\u201d while the room burns around him. In two lesser-known panels of that s<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/trip-and-travel\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"10\" title=\"Trip &amp; Travel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">trip<\/a>, the pooch also says, \u201cI\u2019m okay with the events that are unfolding currently,\u201d and, as he finally begins to melt: \u201cThat\u2019s okay, things are going to be okay.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>Post Sports+ members, now you can Text Back at Vac. Get texts from Mike Vaccaro to be the first to know what he\u2019s thinking about the ups and downs in New York sports and text back to share your thoughts. Not a Sports+ member yet? Try it now.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Well, things are not OK.<\/p>\n<p>But I am here to assure you of this:<\/p>\n<p>As amazing, as improbable, as impossible as this may seem, it could be worse.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" src=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/12\/newspress-collage-20508229-1639621618080-1.png?w=1024\" alt=\"Giants co-owners John Mara and Steve Tisch have a good relationship but Wellington Mara (left) did not have a good relationship with his cousin Tim Mara during a time the Giants were more dysfunctional.\" class=\"wp-image-20508414\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/12\/newspress-collage-20508229-1639621618080-1.png?w=1535 1536w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/12\/newspress-collage-20508229-1639621618080-1.png 1024w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/12\/newspress-collage-20508229-1639621618080-1.png?w=512 512w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\"\/><figcaption>Giants co-owners John Mara and Steve Tisch have a good relationship but Wellington Mara (left) did not have a good relationship with his cousin Tim Mara during a time the Giants were more dysfunctional.<\/figcaption><figcaption><span class=\"credit\">Joseph E. Amaturo; Getty Images<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Because the era that is <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/general\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"3\" title=\"General\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">general<\/a>ly cited for comparison\u2019s sake, the playoff-free run from 1964 through 1980 that included only two winning seasons in those 17 years \u2014 that really was worse. And the elixir moment often cited \u2014 Young\u2019s arrival off Don Shula\u2019s staff on Valentine\u2019s Day 1979 \u2014 was a much lower rock bottom than where the Giants sit now.<\/p>\n<p>It may be close. But they aren\u2019t quite there.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"single__inline-module alignright\">\n    <\/aside>\n<p>There are a lot of reasons for this. For one thing, the Giants are only 10 years removed from their most recent taste of glory. The sign that flew over the Meadowlands in 1978 cited 15 years of lousy football, though it was actually 22 since the Giants had previously won a title. And the difference between football in 2011 and 2021 compared to the gap between 1956 and 1979 isn\u2019t nearly as great. Start there.<\/p>\n<p>The league is better designed to help weak teams get stronger, quicker, than it was in 1979, when Pete Rozelle\u2019s dreams of \u201cparity\u201d were only beginning to take root. In those years, bad teams stayed bad for years, often decades. If that\u2019s part of what makes the Giants\u2019 inability to get their house in order the last 10 years so inexcusable, it\u2019s also just an easier task than it was in 1979.<\/p>\n<p>But the main reason why things aren\u2019t as bad as they were is a simple one:<\/p>\n<p>The Giants now, as then, have two owners. But by all accounts John Mara and Steve Tisch get along well, are on the same page philosophically, and don\u2019t have a fundamental personality clash.<\/p>\n<p>Back in \u201979, Mara\u2019s father, Wellington, and cousin, Tim, couldn\u2019t stand to be in the same room together. That was mostly an open secret for years until the Miracle of the Meadowlands, a seismic event in which the GM, Andy Robustelli, resigned the next day and the coach, John McVay, was let go im<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">media<\/a>tely after the season.<\/p>\n<p>        <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Podcast\" width=\"100%\" height=\"188px\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/blue-rush\/joejudge-sseatkeepsgettinghotterfeat.terrellthomas?accentColor=2a2a2a&amp;bgColor=f6f6f6&amp;font-family=proxima%20nova&amp;logo=false&amp;secondaryColor=cc3333\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden;\"><br \/>\n        <\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>That 6-10 season ended on Dec. 17. And for the next 59 days the Giants were paralyzed because where Wellington saw white, Tim saw black. As one Giants employee of the day once explained it: \u201cIf Wellington and Tim were both looking at the sun on a cloudless day, one would insist it was about to rain and the other that it was about to snow.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why Rozelle had to step in, why he had to twist two Maras\u2019 arms to reach one consensus. In those 59 days every piece of the family\u2019s dirty laundry landed in the papers. The Giants had never referred to their football boss as a \u201cgeneral manager\u201d before. He was \u201cdirector of operations,\u201d because Wellington was the presumptive GM. Young insisted he be called a GM. He was hired, essentially, because it made too much sense not to.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you can\u2019t hire all of Don Shula,\u201d Well Mara said that day, \u201cwe were glad to get his right arm.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s how bad it was. Wrote Paul Zimmerman in the next day\u2019s Post: \u201cHiring Young as GM is so logical I never would have expected the Maras to do it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Forty-three years later, logic wouldn\u2019t be such a bad tool to wield again. And at least the two men in charge are on speaking terms. That\u2019s a plus.\n                        <\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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