{"id":397189,"date":"2022-01-20T22:07:10","date_gmt":"2022-01-20T19:07:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/david-bazan-goes-home-again-and-again\/"},"modified":"2022-01-20T22:07:10","modified_gmt":"2022-01-20T19:07:10","slug":"david-bazan-goes-home-again-and-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/david-bazan-goes-home-again-and-again\/","title":{"rendered":"#David Bazan goes home again (and again)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2dc14bdbffd\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" 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href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/david-bazan-goes-home-again-and-again\/#On_Havasu_the_second_in_Pedro_The_Lions_five-album_project_about_his_childhood_Bazan_revisits_a_manmade_lake_in_the_desert_and_tries_to_unknot_his_past\" >On Havasu, the second in Pedro The Lion\u2019s five-album project about his childhood, Bazan revisits a manmade lake in the desert and tries to unknot his past.<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#David Bazan goes home again (and again)<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"deck\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"On_Havasu_the_second_in_Pedro_The_Lions_five-album_project_about_his_childhood_Bazan_revisits_a_manmade_lake_in_the_desert_and_tries_to_unknot_his_past\"><\/span>On <i>Havasu<\/i>, the second in Pedro The Lion\u2019s five-album project about his childhood, Bazan revisits a manmade lake in the desert and tries to unknot his past.<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\n<div 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1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0347_p5abtx\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0347_p5abtx\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"David Bazan goes home again (and again)\"><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><\/p>\n<p>      Ryan Russell<br \/>\n        \/<\/p>\n<p>      Riot Act <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Media<\/a><br \/>\n  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228239\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <span class=\"lead-text\">Two years ago<\/span>, David Bazan was four weeks away from turning in <i>Havasu<\/i>, his sixth album as Pedro The Lion, when he called his label to tell them he was scr<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>ing the deadline. The bones of the project fit together fine: this was the second in a five-album arc about Bazan\u2019s childhood, each record devoted to a place he lived while his father, a Pentecostal music pastor, moved from flock to flock across the United States. Bazan had worked every bit as hard on <i>Havasu<\/i> as he had on <i>Phoenix<\/i>, the first in the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">series<\/a>. He\u2019d <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/trip-and-travel\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"10\" title=\"Trip &amp; Travel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">travel<\/a>ed back to Lake Havasu, the synthetic desert city where he spent seventh grade, four or five times; he\u2019d revisited innocuous intersections and felt his memories rush back. He\u2019d taken notes, traced out melodies. <\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            \u201cAnd I just realized that there were some thematic things on the record that I understood I wanted to do, but that I was not capable of doing, because I had some more personal work to do,\u201d Bazan says now over the phone from his home in Edmonds, Washington. \u201cI couldn&#8217;t even hear my own feelings, because I was so concerned about the feelings of my parents and my sister and my kids&#8217; mom. I knew that I needed to put it away.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>            Since then, Bazan\u2019s life has changed immeasurably. Shortly after that conversation with Polyvinyl, Bazan and the mother of his children decided, after two decades together, to end their marriage. And having spent more than a decade playing upwards of 150 shows each year \u2014 <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/strangenegotiationsfilm.com\/\">mostly private concerts in the living rooms of fans across the United States<\/a> \u2014 he was, like most independent musicians, forced by the pandemic to stay home. \u201cI really lost both things at once,\u201d he says now. \u201cAnd that has been pretty brutal.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            Still, it wouldn\u2019t have been in Bazan\u2019s nature to have shelved <i>Havasu<\/i>. When he believed resolutely in God, as he did for the first three decades of his life, he wrote thorny, mournful parables. When his faith was shaken, he went solo and wrote the staggeringly candid <i>Curse Your Branches<\/i>, which Jessica Hopper described in the <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/chicagoreader.com\/music\/the-passion-of-david-bazan\/\"><i>Chicago Reader<\/i><\/a> at the time as \u201ca harrowing breakup record \u2014 except he\u2019s dumping God, Jesus, and the evangelical life.\u201d When he realized that he needed to untangle his childhood, he traced out a five-album arc. Shortly before the release of <i>Phoenix<\/i>, <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vice.com\/en\/article\/59xw5d\/pedro-the-lion-phoenix-david-bazan-interview\">Bazan told me<\/a> that this five-album project was a reflection of the process he\u2019d recently started with his therapist, that it was \u201can expression of self-kindness or self-compassion.\u201d In that sense, he was compelled to write about his past in the midst of this tumultuous present. <\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228251\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left image\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0195_dgckmn\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"David Bazan goes home again (and again)\"><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><\/p>\n<p>      Ryan Russell<br \/>\n        \/<\/p>\n<p>      Riot Act Media<br \/>\n  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228242\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <i>Havasu<\/i>, released by surprise this morning, picks up where \u201cLeaving the Valley,\u201d the last track on <i>Phoenix<\/i>, dropped the thread: the same uneasy chords in the same key leaning over at the same strange angle. \u201cI desperately don&#8217;t want to \/ Move to Lake Havasu,\u201d he sings this time, inhabiting the disconnected seventh-grader in the backseat of that car. He sings directly to his father; he asks if it\u2019s even worth being honest. Then he remembers what happened instead: \u201cI prayed and cried and cried and prayed \/ Still pissed off, still in pain \/ Still keep it hid and grit my teeth.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>            From that point on, Bazan seems intent on unclenching his jaw. He revisits his decision to drop the clarinet for the drums (\u201cFirst Drumset\u201d), his first shattering heartbreak (\u201cTeenage Sequencer\u201d), the utter desolation he felt at points (\u201cMaking The Most of It\u201d). As ever his delivery is warm and impassioned, a baritone in agony bursting through the choir. Lyrically, he may never have been this strong, zooming out just far enough to take in the expanse of the desert before locking in on the precise details that bring the young Bazan back to life. <\/p>\n<p>            The next three albums are mapped out, he insists \u2014 Santa Cruz, Paradise, and Seattle \u2014 though he\u2019s not imposing arbitrary deadlines on himself anymore. In the meantime, all things permitting, he\u2019ll pick up where he left off at the end of last year. He\u2019ll head back out in his car, play to more people in more living rooms, and see the effect of his songs in the whites of people\u2019s eyes. <\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228241\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left embed\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\">\n    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Pedro The Lion - Havasu [FULL ALBUM STREAM]\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7cPbI6ck484?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228240\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>The FADER: Before we get into discussing <i>Havasu<\/i>, I wanted to talk about your cover of Gillian Welch\u2019s \u201cTime (The Revelator),\u201d which you released last spring. Why that Gillian Welch song?<br \/><\/b><br \/><b>David Bazan:<\/b> That tune was really resonating with me because of how things in my life had landed \u2014 things that I misunderstood for years, or ways in which I extended the benefit of the doubt for years and decades. And then everything landed. Then one day I was in a really low place and I just thought, &#8220;Okay, I&#8217;m going to sit on my bed and open up my laptop and just learn this song and try to capture something for myself, just in this moment.&#8221; Not really thinking I would release it necessarily, just I needed to have this time with myself and that tune. And when I got to the end of that, I had a recording of me playing the tune, singing it.<\/p>\n<p>            That day I started adding fake drums. I have a studio\u2019s worth of gear in various places, but there&#8217;s something with that depressed mindset where I just couldn&#8217;t move from my spot. And so whatever I had access to in my plugins and in the computer, I just tried to layer on to the recording that I had made, keep chasing that feeling. By the end, I had a recording that when I zoomed out, it just really carried my feelings. It really spoke for where I was at.<\/p>\n<p>            That version still turns me on. I&#8217;m trying to get to a place where I like my own stuff unabashedly, and don&#8217;t feel weird about it. And that&#8217;s definitely an entry into my recording catalog or whatever that. I just am like, &#8220;Yep. I really like it.&#8221; It&#8217;s easier if it&#8217;s not my tune.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228246\" class=\"content_block paragraph embed triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\">\n    <iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; height: 120px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=203696725\/size=large\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/tracklist=false\/artwork=small\/track=1515099086\/transparent=true\/\" seamless><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/pedrothelion.bandcamp.com\/album\/bazan-2021-1\">Bazan 2021 #1 by David Bazan<\/a><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228247\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>You scrapped the deadline for <i>Havasu<\/i> because you thought you were withholding something thematically. Had you been trying too hard to protect other people in your lyrics?  <br \/><\/b><br \/>Well, yeah, if I really write about my opinion on my childhood in detail, then it&#8217;s going to reflect on my parents \u2014 that&#8217;s my feeling. My whole motivation for masking the pain that I was feeling was to protect their feelings, from the time I was a toddler. Somehow I felt compelled to do that from the time I was a tiny, tiny person. And so just to look and see the kid who was riding in the backseat of the car from Phoenix to Havasu. What was that kid feeling? What was that kid showing? And what was the difference between those two things? [I had to] look back and realize that the difference was vast, and that I was masking all this pain. I didn&#8217;t perceive that there was space for me to discuss this pain. I was just trying to go along and be a team player.<\/p>\n<p>            The big trick of this record for me was just to even admit that. The process of making the songs is dramatizing these painful feelings that I&#8217;m having. And my whole personality and personal ethics were built around not dramatizing pain \u2014 minimizing the pain that you&#8217;re feeling, not making it dramatic. Being reasonable and being chill.<\/p>\n<p>            And I was shaky about it. I was terrified. It was just such a primitive mandate that my body had been feeling and carrying for my whole conscious life. So this record is the first time that I was like, &#8220;Okay, we&#8217;re here now. If you&#8217;re going to do justice to the experience of that kid back year, you have to admit that you were bullshit. That you were lying all the time by saying that you were fine, because you were not fine.&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228253\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left image\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/pedrothelion_rr_highres_0119_odxp3z\/david-bazan-pedro-the-lion-havasu-interview-2022.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"David Bazan goes home again (and again)\"><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><\/p>\n<p>      Ryan Russell<br \/>\n        \/<\/p>\n<p>      Riot Act Media<br \/>\n  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228252\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vice.com\/en\/article\/59xw5d\/pedro-the-lion-phoenix-david-bazan-interview\">When we spoke around <i>Phoenix<\/i>, you described that album as an \u201cexercise in self-kindness.\u201d<\/a> Do you think that you were kinder on yourself this time?<br \/><\/b><br \/>I do. The \u201cTeenage Sequencer\u201d story, the way that all that landed for me \u2014 which I don&#8217;t even go into great detail, but I hint at  \u2014 was just this personal shame. It was just one that I was really reticent to write about. But then in the end it was just out of kindness for myself at that moment, that it was just like, &#8220;Hey bud, you were in earnest in this situation, and you really got hurt, and it&#8217;s okay. People don&#8217;t even have to understand what you&#8217;re saying or feeling. You need to be able to express that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Is it difficult to separate past and present on a project like this, when you\u2019re focusing on the past but dealing with the present? Or is it okay to let those things meld?<br \/><\/b><br \/>The work that we&#8217;re doing to be present with our kid selves\u2026 it&#8217;s an ongoing and probably incomplete process. I think Hannah Gadsby has shown that. She did stand up about her coming out for 10 years. Through that, she thought that she had processed it all. And then she realized that she had only processed a small part of it. All through this particular lens, that had to do with creating tension and release, commercial concerns, all this stuff. I&#8217;m not making comedy, but it&#8217;s similar. At the time I thought about <i>Curse Your Branches<\/i> \u2014 I wrote and sang those songs a couple of hundred times and really felt that I had processed all that. I thought I had processed it before and was perturbed that my subconscious was insisting on all this music, about something that I thought I had passed. And so when I saw Nanette, I thought, &#8220;Oh, right.&#8221; As thoroughly as I tried to process and communicate about some of those things, that&#8217;s still just a sliver of the whole thing. And that realization actually led me to want to express a little bit more of the gray area and wound up in a song like \u201cAll Seeing Eye\u201d from <i>Phoenix<\/i>.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228249\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left embed\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\">\n    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Pedro The Lion - All Seeing Eye [OFFICIAL AUDIO]\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KN18y8nvrG0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-228250\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            I guess that&#8217;s a long answer to say I reached into my experience as that 12- and 13-year-old kid as much as I could. That still feels incomplete as a process, but I&#8217;m not worried about it. I really came a long way with that kid. And in a sense, that&#8217;s the present part of it. With that second-to-last song, \u201cGood Feeling,\u201d me making this record is me coming back and retrieving my lost self. That&#8217;s what these songs are, me going back and pulling myself out of the lake. This was such a clear picture of what was sort of spiritually happening for me at the time. And so that&#8217;s the present part of it, and I&#8217;m totally grounded in that. Just wanting to see and hear and heal. And re-parent that kid that just needed more space to express his feelings and the whole thing.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>You mentioned <i>Curse Your Branches<\/i>. Did you think as you wrote that album that you had a silver bullet? That maybe the shame and anxiety you felt would just dissipate when you released it into the world?<br \/><\/b><br \/>No. I think one thing that this process with <i>Havasu<\/i> has shown me is that I&#8217;ve known since then. I remember knowing about it first in that landscape, which is really vivid \u2014 the lighting in my memory is just so specific. It felt like I wasn\u2019t bottling my pain. I was collecting it and trying to hold space for it until&#8230; I guess my assumption was that we\u2019d finally move someplace and stay there. Then after some time I\u2019ll have friendships where I can be myself and I can sort of reveal this, or these people can learn these things about me or these stories where I really was hurt.<\/p>\n<p>            I kept believing that. We moved every year for a while after this time. And so I think I&#8217;ve understood that eventually I had to go back to that spot. I didn&#8217;t realize that I had to go further back, but I always kind of had a sense that at some point I was going to have the bandwidth to go back. And I assumed it was going to be with another person or multiple friends, like in a friendship or community or something. <\/p>\n<p>            <i>Branches<\/i> to me was probably part of the process of clearing the space to finally do this work. I think I&#8217;ve had a sense that I had to go back somehow and do that. But mostly, I was just trying desperately to keep up with my day-to-day all the rest of this time, these decades. And didn&#8217;t really understand that therapy would be a great space to do that. I didn&#8217;t know that I needed to do it a little bit at a time, as much as I could. I just had this feeling of waiting until things settle down. 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