{"id":400609,"date":"2022-01-28T22:40:48","date_gmt":"2022-01-28T19:40:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/no-really-were-totally-fighting-for-democracy\/"},"modified":"2022-01-28T22:40:48","modified_gmt":"2022-01-28T19:40:48","slug":"no-really-were-totally-fighting-for-democracy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/no-really-were-totally-fighting-for-democracy\/","title":{"rendered":"#No, really, we&#8217;re totally fighting for democracy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;<strong>#No, really, we&#8217;re totally fighting for democracy<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n                                                                        We\u2019re still very far from knowing for sure that Russia will invade Ukraine. Or at least that it will invade Ukraine again, more than it <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cfr.org\/global-conflict-tracker\/conflict\/conflict-ukraine\">already has<\/a> and on a scale larger than its <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2021\/03\/30\/world\/europe\/ukraine-russia-fighting.html\">regular, continuing cross-border harassment<\/a>. Joe Biden\u2019s \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/my-guess-is-he-will-move-in-he-has-to-do-something-russia-will-attack-ukraine-president-biden-says-12520448\">guess<\/a>\u201d is that there will be an invasion. The U.K. is <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/av\/uk-politics-60110028\">on edge<\/a> too. These are serious concerns from at least one serious government.<\/p>\n<p>Skeptics include the French, who have <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2003\/02\/14\/international\/middleeast\/statement-by-france-to-security-council.html\">amply earned a hearing<\/a> when they disagree with the Americans and the British about a security analysis. \u201cWe see the same number of [Russian] trucks, tanks and personnel [near the border with Ukraine]\u201d as the Americans and Brits, <em>Le Monde<\/em> <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/international\/article\/2022\/01\/21\/face-a-la-russie-emmanuel-macron-veut-faire-entendre-la-voix-de-l-europe_6110349_3210.html\">quotes<\/a> a source in Emmanuel Macron\u2019s government, \u201cbut we cannot deduce from all of this that an offensive is imminent.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Other skeptics include Ukraine\u2019s Centre for Defence Strategies, run by a pro-Western former Ukrainian defence minister. They have what amounts to a bay window looking out onto Russian troops and <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/national\/center-for-defense-strategies-how-probable-is-large-scale-war-in-ukraine-analysis\/\">they\u00a0say Russia\u2019s army is not behaving<\/a> the way Russia\u2019s army normally behaves before it invades something. \u201cRussian troops move mainly as battalion tactical groups (mechanized, tank and airborne troops) and tactical groups (artillery, multiple launch missile systems). Russia hasn\u2019t completed the formation of groups of troops in operational areas. It also hasn\u2019t established and tested its wartime administration system. If Russia was conducting preparations for a large-scale invasion, it would have been much more noticeable.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>MORE BY WELLS:\u00a0This just in: The PM has been phoning cabinet ministers<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It\u2019s important to emphasize that the think tank doesn\u2019t at all rule out an invasion somewhere down the line, and it argues that the best thing Ukraine can do with its time is to prepare against the worst.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraine\u2019s current defence minister has a <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2022-01-25\/ukraine-s-defense-minister-downplays-risk-of-russian-invasion\">similar take.<\/a>\u00a0He sees no imminent attack but he\u2019s prudent, as you would be if the neighbours had <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/2022\/01\/27\/world\/europe\/russia-forces.html\">130,000-odd troops on your border<\/a>, and he is <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-10452691\/Ukraines-defence-minister-warns-Berlin-Russia-want-revive-GDR.html\">not pleased<\/a> with Germany\u2019s reluctance to send military aid as a way of ensuring Vladimir Putin doesn\u2019t get any ideas.<\/p>\n<p>All of which brings us to Justin Trudeau. As the list of <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/vancouversun.com\/opinion\/op-ed\/opinion-trudeau-learns-hard-lesson-on-disappointing-trip-to-china\">world leaders<\/a> who are <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-asia-india-43165794\">unimpressed<\/a> with him <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2020\/jun\/18\/canada-loses-bid-un-security-council-seat-justin-trudeau\">grows<\/a>, the Prime Minister has been <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/thewalrus.ca\/was-canadas-peacekeeping-stint-in-mali-just-for-show\/\">increasingly listless<\/a> about foreign policy. Probably he pays no political cost for this at all. More and more Canadians seem convinced the entire rest of the world is more trouble than it\u2019s worth, so our country\u2019s longstanding isolationist streak has lately grown until it now covers most of the road. Nor does <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/watch\/?v=251145556271045\">the slate of available alternatives<\/a> lead most voters to believe they\u2019re being cheated out of a chance to witness some masterful statecraft.<\/p>\n<p>But sometimes events impinge. On Ukraine, the Trudeau PMO\u2019s first response was a <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ctvnews.ca\/politics\/special-partnership-canadian-loan-of-120-million-welcomed-by-ukrainian-president-1.5750802\">welcome loan<\/a>, followed by a bit of pathetic theatre. They followed up with some <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/HarjitSajjan\/status\/1484941918517841922\">more pathetic theatre<\/a>, but by this week the feds had started saying a few things clearly or at least comprehensibly.<\/p>\n<p>Trudeau and three cabinet ministers left a three-day cabinet retreat to say they will <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ctvnews.ca\/politics\/canada-extends-military-operation-in-ukraine-for-three-years-1.5755493\">extend a Canadian training mission<\/a> in Ukraine that the Ukrainians and their NATO neighbours hoped would be extended anyway; that the size of the Canadian deployment will be slightly increased; that Canada will send useful military equipment that can\u2019t be used to kill anyone; and that if shooting begins on a large scale, all those Canadians will come straight home. \u201cIn the event of a Russian incursion or invasion into Ukraine, we will ensure that Canadian military remain safe,\u201d the Prime Minister said. Because that\u2019s what you\u2019re looking for when you join a volunteer army: safety.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>RELATED:\u00a0The hawks are screeching over Ukraine. Will cooler heads prevail?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>For satisfying outrage over the substance of this announcement, <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/opinion\/article-trudeau-stands-squarely-for-ukraines-right-to-defend-itself-with\/\">see brother Coyne<\/a>. I had already argued, last week, that a combat commitment and lethal weapons shipments might be outside the scope of what Canada might want to send, so I can\u2019t now claim to be furious. Instead let me try a few other angles on all this.<\/p>\n<p>First, why <em>not<\/em> send lethal weapons? Partly because I\u2019ve read <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2015\/04\/27\/magazine\/where-the-islamic-state-gets-its-weapons.html\">CJ Chivers\u2019 reporting<\/a> on what h<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>ens when you ship weapons into a chaotic battle theatre: pretty soon, everyone has them, including the people who have your designated good guys surrounded. Mostly because I believe Canada could add little that\u2019s useful to the <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/world\/2022\/01\/22\/baltic-nations-ship-us-endorsed-arms-ukraine\/6622230001\/\">large arsenal<\/a> already being sent to Ukraine by other countries. I just want to point out that I just gave a simple, straightforward answer to a question, which is something the Prime Minister of Canada didn\u2019t do when he faced the same question five times on Wednesday. That\u2019s because unlike him, I respect you and your intelligence.<\/p>\n<p>Second: there\u2019s a lot of chatter this week about how Canadian policy on Ukraine is the pure product of pressure by the large and fearsome Ukrainian-Canadian lobby, personified by the deputy prime minister. I find this sort of argument mystifying, for three reasons. First, the Ukrainian Canadian Congress <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucc.ca\/2022\/01\/26\/canada-needs-to-arm-ukraine\/\">actually isn\u2019t satisfied<\/a> with Trudeau\u2019s announcement. More important, diaspora politics is understandable and legitimate. About 300 years of Canadian history has been heavily influenced by our sizeable French, English, Scottish and Irish diasporas. It\u2019s pretty rich to ask anyone else, very much including Ukrainian-Canadians, to stay out of it. And finally, if the geography were a little different and it were Spain or Greece tucked up against menacing Russia and Belarus, there\u2019s no reason to think the behaviour and attitude of successive Canadian governments would be any different.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re curious about the Ukrainian-Canadian angle, four cabinet ministers showed up for an online town hall on Tuesday night, at the invitation of Winnipeg South Liberal MP Terry Duguid, with the Ukrainian Canadian Congress\u2019s assistance. Getting Chrystia Freeland, M\u00e9lanie Joly, Randy Boissonault and Bill Blair on a single Zoom call is quite a haul, and it surely reflects the party\u2019s eagerness to hold a seat with a lot of Ukrainian-Canadian voters that Duguid lost three times before winning it three times since 2015, once quite narrowly. But you can <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/watch\/live\/?ref=watch_permalink&amp;v=1251743011901702\">watch the session here<\/a>, and the assembled ministers said nothing to their highly-engaged niche audience that Freeland didn\u2019t say to the whole country the next afternoon.<\/p>\n<p>I want to talk a bit about what she did say. At the Wednesday <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/news\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"2\" title=\"News\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">news<\/a> conference with Trudeau, Freeland said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThis is a struggle between democracy and authoritarianism. This is a direct challenge to the rules-based international order and an attempt to replace it with a world in which might makes right, and where the great powers\u2014the nuclear-armed powers \u2014have the authority to redraw the borders, dictate the foreign policies, and even rewrite the constitutions of sovereign democracies, whose only fault is that they are smaller and their militaries are not as powerful.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCanadians\u2014our own parents and grandparents\u2014fought and died to establish the rules-based international order during and after the Second World War. They did that because they knew it was the right thing to do, of course, but also because they understood that Canada, as a middle power, had a clear and direct national interest in a world order based on rules.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat rules-based international order is today facing its most serious challenge since it was first established. Ukraine is on the front lines of that struggle, and that is why Canada is standing with Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe world\u2019s dictators are watching to see if our alliance of democracies has the will and the capacity to stand up for the rules-based international order. We must and we will show them that we understand the gravity of this challenge and that we will rise to it.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I don\u2019t think it\u2019s nitpicking to say that the government\u2019s actions and rhetoric are starkly out of proportion. Freeland is describing an existential threat to democracy; Trudeau is packing for a weekend road <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/trip-and-travel\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"10\" title=\"Trip &amp; Travel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">trip<\/a>. If this test is in any way comparable to the one \u201cour own parents and grandparents\u2026 fought and died\u201d for, then don\u2019t send a smaller deployment then you sent last year to the old-folks\u2019 homes of Quebec and Ontario, and don\u2019t promise to airlift the drill sergeants home at the first sign of trouble. And if it\u2019s <em>not<\/em> that kind of test, then stow the Patton speeches and the back-patting.<\/p>\n<p>This country is in a kind of extended despair for a bunch of reasons, most obvious and many beyond anyone\u2019s control. But one item on the list that our putative leaders could address if they felt like it is that we seem to be governed by champion self-aggrandizers. It\u2019s a cliche in politics that you should under-promise and over-deliver. This lot are addicted to playing tee-ball and calling themselves Mickey Mantle.<\/p>\n<p>It would be tidy and convenient if democracy faced a single test in the bloodlands north and east of Kyiv. But of course democracy is tested dozens of times a day: in the South China Sea, on Tucker Carlson\u2019s Fox News show, in one\u2019s own choice of election rhetoric. People who study this sort of thing for a living say <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/freedomhouse.org\/report\/freedom-world\/2021\/democracy-under-siege\">democracy is having a terrible century<\/a> so far. Canada\u2019s contribution to the health of democracy isn\u2019t a binary switch\u2014is Canada Back or Not Back?\u2014it\u2019s the result of sustained and serious engagement, or it\u2019s the sum of a hundred decisions not to engage or be serious.<\/p>\n<p>For instance. In 2019 the Trudeau Liberals ran on a promise to \u201cestablish the Canadian Centre for Peace, Order, and Good Government, which will lend expertise and help to people seeking to build peace, advance justice, promote human rights and democracy, and deliver good governance.\u201d Freshly re-elected, the PM <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/pm.gc.ca\/en\/mandate-letters\/2019\/12\/13\/archived-minister-foreign-affairs-mandate-letter\">wrote to his foreign minister<\/a> and urged him to \u201cestablish the Canadian Centre for Peace, Order and Good Government.\u201d Unfortunately that was the minister before the minister before the current one. The Liberals ran on the same promise in 2021. When Biden held a global summit on democracy in December, Trudeau <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/pm.gc.ca\/en\/news\/backgrounders\/2021\/12\/09\/summit-democracy-2021-submission-and-commitments-canada\">showed up with a promise<\/a> to \u201cestablish a new centre,\u201d using language lifted verbatim from the last two Liberal platforms. This is statecraft as tree-planting, the announcement as the thing. No wonder when things get serious, the phone doesn\u2019t ring.<br \/>\n<span class=\"ctx-article-root\"><!-- --><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><script async defer crossorigin=\"anonymous\" src=\"https:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/sdk.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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Or at least that it will invade Ukraine again, more than it already has and on a scale larger than its regular, continuing cross-border harassment. Joe Biden\u2019s \u201cguess\u201d is that there will be an invasion&#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":400610,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/www.macleans.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/CP149711450-766x431.jpg","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[82287,74106,67806,67816,70868],"class_list":["post-400609","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-general","tag-chrystia-freeland","tag-democracy","tag-editors-picks","tag-justin-trudeau","tag-ukraine"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/400609","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=400609"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/400609\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/400610"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=400609"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=400609"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=400609"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}