{"id":442132,"date":"2022-05-05T07:00:04","date_gmt":"2022-05-05T04:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/fat-joe-and-jalen-rose-talk-about-the-knicks-biggie\/"},"modified":"2022-05-05T07:00:04","modified_gmt":"2022-05-05T04:00:04","slug":"fat-joe-and-jalen-rose-talk-about-the-knicks-biggie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/fat-joe-and-jalen-rose-talk-about-the-knicks-biggie\/","title":{"rendered":"#Fat Joe and Jalen Rose talk about the Knicks &#038; Biggie"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a40ee950059e\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a40ee950059e\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-1'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/fat-joe-and-jalen-rose-talk-about-the-knicks-biggie\/#%E2%80%9CFat_Joe_and_Jalen_Rose_talk_about_the_Knicks_Biggie%E2%80%9D\" >&#8220;Fat Joe and Jalen Rose talk about the Knicks &#038; Biggie&#8221;<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h1><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"%E2%80%9CFat_Joe_and_Jalen_Rose_talk_about_the_Knicks_Biggie%E2%80%9D\"><\/span>&#8220;Fat Joe and Jalen Rose talk about the Knicks &#038; Biggie&#8221;<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h1>\n<div>\n<aside class=\"single__inline-module alignleft\">\n<div class=\"inline-module inline-module--columnist inline-module--author\">\n<div class=\"inline-module--author__img\">\n            <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"76\" height=\"69\" src=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/09\/Jalen-Rose-Final-web-crop.jpeg?quality=75&amp;strip=all&amp;w=76&amp;h=69&amp;crop=1\" class=\"attachment-nyp_columnist size-nyp_columnist\" alt=\"Jalen Rose\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/09\/Jalen-Rose-Final-web-crop.jpeg?quality=75&amp;strip=all&amp;w=152 152w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/09\/Jalen-Rose-Final-web-crop.jpeg?quality=75&amp;strip=all&amp;w=114 114w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/09\/Jalen-Rose-Final-web-crop.jpeg?quality=75&amp;strip=all&amp;w=76 76w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/09\/Jalen-Rose-Final-web-crop.jpeg?quality=75&amp;strip=all&amp;w=38 38w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/09\/Jalen-Rose-Final-web-crop.jpeg?quality=75&amp;strip=all 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 76px) 100vw, 76px\"\/>        <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p>I\u2019ve been friends with my \u201cRenaissance Man\u201d guest for years and thought I knew everything about him. But during this episode, <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/pagesix.com\/2021\/06\/20\/fat-joe-rallies-for-dads-at-march-of-dads-event-sunday\/?_ga=2.121807563.1947930660.1651453776-13376124.1649352637\">Fat Joe,<\/a> dropped a bomb on me.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou know, I made an album with Biggie Smalls,\u201d he casually said. <\/p>\n<p>Excuse me, Mr. Joseph Cartagena? <\/p>\n<p>\u201c[Biggie] was like, \u2018You\u2019re gonna be the Spanish don. I\u2019m gonna be the Black don.\u2019 It was that time with the East Coast, West Coast [battles]. And, you know, we\u2019re dissing people and all that. So Puffy [Sean Combs] buried that because it\u2019s for the best because we love the West Coast, we love everybody and we\u2019re positivity. It was supposed to be an album: Biggie, Fat Joe. And then \u2026 I think Tupac had died and it was like, \u2018Yo, man, get rid of that s \u2013 \u2013 t,&#8217;\u201d he said adding that the potential nuclear musical weapon didn\u2019t have a name. \u201cBut it was just violence. It was just like foul s \u2013 \u2013 t, you know what I mean? It was just hard. It was some Biggie hit man beats.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>To keep the peace during that fragile era, the album was buried and the world never saw the greatness of a Biggie-Fat Joe, Brooklyn-Bronx collaboration. But it did give Fat Joe a leg up in the music world because being associated with Biggie put a lot of currency in his clout piggy bank.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAtlantic Records had heard that I was doing an album with Biggie, and they infiltrated. They gave me my own record label \u2026 And they gave me a big deal. So I went to Puff. I said, \u2018Yo Puff, they give me my own record label, overhead millions of dollars. He said, \u2018Playboy I don\u2019t believe that.\u2019 So when they gave me the contract, I gave it to Puff. I said, \u2018Look.\u2019 He goes, \u2018Playboy. Go get that. I ain\u2019t giving you that. Go get that.\u2019 \u201c<\/p>\n<p>The \u201cLean Back\u201d r<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>er didn\u2019t hesitate. After all, Joey Crack grew up in the bombed out Bronx as hip-hop was rising as an art form of the gritty streets, not the boardroom. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m from the Bronx, where hip-hop was born. So my brother used to carry Grandmaster Flash\u2019s crates. Where you see Melle Mel, my grandmother lived across the street from Mr. Ness.\u201d Fat Joe recalled hearing \u201cThe Message\u201d on every floor of his apartment building. He was street, and he got into graffiti, break dancing and rapping. His only weakness: <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI sucked at DJ\u2019ing. I could never be good at DJ and I tried, but I couldn\u2019t catch it.\u201d A gazillion dollar contract with Atlantic was beyond his wildest dreams. <\/p>\n<p>As the money factor grew, the hip-hop of his hometown evolved from collaborative to cutthroat.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt wasn\u2019t really ego and competition,\u201d he said of the early days. \u201cSo we would go to every other artist\u2019s videos. And then New York got really crazy when like 50 Cent blew, and then Cam\u2019ron was dissing NAS. And it was just a real ugly time.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"744\" src=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/05\/1319080373.jpg?w=1024\" alt=\"Fat Joe revealed that he collaborated on an unreleased album with Biggie Smalls.\" class=\"wp-image-22146201\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/05\/1319080373.jpg?quality=75&amp;strip=all&amp;w=2048 2048w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/05\/1319080373.jpg?quality=75&amp;strip=all&amp;w=1536 1536w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/05\/1319080373.jpg?quality=75&amp;strip=all 1024w, https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/05\/1319080373.jpg?quality=75&amp;strip=all&amp;w=512 512w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\"\/><figcaption>Fat Joe revealed that he collaborated on an unreleased album with Biggie Smalls.<\/figcaption><figcaption><span class=\"credit\">Getty Images<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>So the product of the Boogie Down went to the Sunshine State and helped foster a new hip-hop habitat where you needed sunscreen and didn\u2019t pay state income taxes \u2014 which could maybe explain the chill vibe.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI had already had this relationship with Cool &amp; Dre and with DJ Khaled, and I said, \u2018You know what, I\u2019m going to go to Miami because there\u2019s love there.\u2019 And so we unified, we signed Khaled, you know, and I discovered Khaled. We put his albums together. But at the same time, we started working with [Rick] Ross on every record, Pitbull on every record. Later, when, Katrina happened \u2026 Birdman and Lil Wayne came to Miami. And so we were just collaborating with each other and it reminded me of the early days when I used to work with all the artists. Miami, they have no egos. Nobody to this day, nobody act like they better than nobody in Miami. Everybody act like word, ah, let\u2019s rock.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s now part-time South Florida, but Fat Joe remains a religious and puritanical Knicks fan who has taken a vow of hostility toward the Nets.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s safe to say the Knicks and the Nets won the same amount of playoff <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">game<\/a>s this year \u2026 Hate the Nets, man. I\u2019m a hater. I\u2019m a hater because they were supposed to be our guys,\u201d he said of Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, who he cornered at the Roc Nation offices. <\/p>\n<aside class=\"single__inline-module alignleft\">\n    <\/aside>\n<p>\u201cI got on my knees for this guy. I begged him, sweating bullets. I tried so hard to get him to sign with the Knicks. Jay-Z had to hit me up, like, \u2018leave the man alone, you\u2019ve had him in the room for a half hour \u2026 He\u2019s going with Nets. Leave him alone.\u2019 Broke my heart \u2026 I love our team. And so we\u2019ve lost for many years \u2026 But I love the youth \u2026 We definitely need one more bona fide superstar like Damian Lillard, Donovan Mitchell. A guy who scores.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Unlike Knicks superfan, Spike Lee, who turned up to a Nets playoff game, Fat Joe will not be gracing Barclays with his presence for the cheap thrill of just any old New York playoff game. It has to be his team.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s my brother,\u201d he said of Spike. \u201cHe had no business there. It broke my heart. I don\u2019t know what he\u2019s doing there \u2026 That\u2019s blasphemy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Fat Joe has been to the White House recently. It was his first time, and he was there to advocate for a few issues, including affordable health care equality.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was the greatest experience of my life,\u201d he said adding that his family was so proud of him.<\/p>\n<p>The next location, where I hope to pin him down is a soundproof bunker in Brooklyn with armed guards. Take away everyone\u2019s phone, open a bottle of Ciroc and listen to the lost Biggie-Fat Joe album. <\/p>\n<p>If it happens, you\u2019ll never know. Because I\u2019ll never speak of it again. <\/p>\n<p><em>Detroit native\u00a0Jalen Rose\u00a0is a member of the University of Michigan\u2019s iconoclastic Fab Five, who shook up the college hoops world in the early \u201990s. He played 13 seasons in the NBA, before transitioning into a <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">media<\/a> personality. Rose is currently an analyst for \u201cNBA Countdown\u201d and \u201cGet Up,\u201d and co-host of \u201cJalen &amp; Jacoby.\u201d He executive produced \u201cThe Fab Five\u201d for ESPN\u2019s \u201c30 for 30\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">series<\/a>, is the author of the best-selling book, \u201cGot To Give the People What They Want,\u201d a fashion tastemaker, and co-founded the Jalen Rose Leadership Academy, a public charter school in his hometown.<\/em>\n                        <\/div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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But during this episode, Fat Joe, dropped a bomb on me. \u201cYou know, I made an album with Biggie Smalls,\u201d he casually said. 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