{"id":469018,"date":"2022-06-30T04:00:56","date_gmt":"2022-06-30T01:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/the-flash-boss-looks-back-on-the-season-8-finale-that-almost-was\/"},"modified":"2022-06-30T04:00:56","modified_gmt":"2022-06-30T01:00:56","slug":"the-flash-boss-looks-back-on-the-season-8-finale-that-almost-was","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/the-flash-boss-looks-back-on-the-season-8-finale-that-almost-was\/","title":{"rendered":"#&#8217;The Flash&#8217; Boss Looks Back on the Season 8 Finale That Almost Was"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a407e585caf8\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a407e585caf8\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-1'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/the-flash-boss-looks-back-on-the-season-8-finale-that-almost-was\/#%E2%80%9C%E2%80%98The_Flash_Boss_Looks_Back_on_the_Season_8_Finale_That_Almost_Was%E2%80%9D\" >&#8220;&#8216;The Flash&#8217; Boss Looks Back on the Season 8 Finale That Almost Was&#8221;<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h1><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"%E2%80%9C%E2%80%98The_Flash_Boss_Looks_Back_on_the_Season_8_Finale_That_Almost_Was%E2%80%9D\"><\/span>&#8220;&#8216;The Flash&#8217; Boss Looks Back on the Season 8 Finale That Almost Was&#8221;<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h1>\n<div> <strong>[Warning: The below contains MAJOR spoilers for <em>The Flash<\/em>\u2018s Season 8 finale, \u201cNegative, Part 2.\u201d So if you haven\u2019t watched yet, maybe Chillblaine can hook you up with a containment unit like the one holding whatever Frost has become.]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>After staving off Armageddon in a five-part arc, only to lose Frost (Danielle Panabaker) and then <em>almost<\/em> lose Iris (Candice Patton), our boy Barry Allen (Grant Gustin) closed out Season 8 in a, well, flashy show of superpowers. Thankfully, he has the world\u2019s greatest support staff on hand, so as Team Flash mobilized to take on the Negative Speed Force crew, Barry was able to eventually center himself, see how a lot of this was his own doing and literally overpower the Negative Reverse Flash (Tom Cavanagh). Like, to the death.<\/p>\n<p>At least that\u2019s what showrunner Eric Wallace says. Here, he expands on taking this latest version of Thawne off the table for good, elevating Iris to the Queen status she has deserved since Day 1, tying this arc to past storylines, planting the seeds of next year\u2019s villain(s?) and how <em>The Flash<\/em> would have ended if the show hadn\u2019t been renewed for a ninth season.<\/p>\n<p><strong>OK, well you pulled it off. You tied it all to, what, Season 6 stuff?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eric Wallace:<\/strong> It was all part of the plan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But we still don\u2019t know what that plan is going forward!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, that\u2019s good! It\u2019s a fresh start next year in Season 9, which is what\u2019s really exciting for me and the writing staff and the directors and our producers and everybody. Seasons 6, 7 and 8: Even though they\u2019re separate seasons and they all have their own separate graphic novels, we feel like in some ways you can look at those as one complete story. Like one big epic novel\u2014you know, graphic novel, because we\u2019re a comic book show. [<em>Laughs<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p>And now that\u2019s done. Barry and Iris have been through an insane journey where they started together, they were pulled apart a lot, and now they\u2019ve gone through everything they went through. They\u2019ve both leveled up. She\u2019s leveled up. She\u2019s almost on the same level as him. He\u2019s leveled up as a superhero. The team is leveled up. They\u2019re back together as a h<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>y ending. Now it\u2019s time to take it to an even higher level in Season 9. But who can come between them now that they are both at the peak of their emotional and superhero powers? That\u2019s what\u2019s gonna happen in Season 9, and that\u2019s why we had to wrap everything up in this season finale. We wanna start clean next year. So we had to resolve time sickness, we had to show that we\u2019re going to resolve Danielle Panabaker\u2019s situation\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Oh yeah, that was a nice little tee-up. What are you getting into next with her?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[<em>Laughs<\/em>] It\u2019s something new, okay? That\u2019s all I can say. And something that people are not expecting. I pitched my crazy idea about six or seven months ago to Danielle, who was like, \u201cOoh, I like that. We have not done that before!\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1050308\" style=\"width: 2570px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1050308\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1050308 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA814b_0372r-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"The Flash - Danielle Panabaker\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1710\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA814b_0372r-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA814b_0372r-433x289.jpg 433w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA814b_0372r-853x570.jpg 853w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA814b_0372r-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA814b_0372r-2048x1368.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA814b_0372r-234x155.jpg 234w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA814b_0372r-570x381.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-1050308\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shane Harvey\/The CW<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>So is this something that comic fans will understand or recognize?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know, but like everything we do, it will become very clear, very quickly, what\u2019s happening and why. And it has its roots in perhaps the past. I don\u2019t wanna spoil anything.<\/p>\n<p><strong>All right. So what would you say Iris\u2019s powers are now?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, it\u2019s not that she has superpowers. That\u2019s why everybody says [at the end], \u201cHey, I don\u2019t have the force powers\u201d and \u201cHey, I don\u2019t glow with fire anymore.\u201d What we have here now is that <em>she<\/em> knows what she brings to the equation, more than ever, is equal to what Barry brings to the equation. That\u2019s really what this story has been about for three years and now I can talk about it, right? It\u2019s ultimately a marriage story about the equality of partners and spouses in a marriage. That\u2019s what this is really about. And what I really tried to get across is a healthy relationship works when <em>both<\/em> people bring equal things to the table, where both people have agency and both people are treated equally and are as equally important in the relationship\u2019s functionality.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Does this mean that we\u2019ll see more of Barry and Iris together next season, because it feels like they have been separated so much.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh, yes it does. And we had to do that, right? We had to do that to get where we are now. It\u2019s one of the things I\u2019m most excited about for Season 9\u2014that it\u2019s now time to see them at their best together. I\u2019m very much looking forward to it.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1050309\" style=\"width: 2570px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1050309\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1050309 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA812a_0172r-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"The Flash - Grant Gustin + Candice Patton\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA812a_0172r-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA812a_0172r-434x289.jpg 434w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA812a_0172r-855x570.jpg 855w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA812a_0172r-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA812a_0172r-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA812a_0172r-234x155.jpg 234w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA812a_0172r-570x380.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-1050309\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bettina Strauss\/The CW<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>I spoke to Tom Cavanagh last week\u2014loved the suit upgrade, by the way\u2014and asked if this sets him up as the next bad. Because, if there\u2019s anyone who\u2019s gonna be able to pull these two apart or threaten them or challenge them as a couple, it would have to be Thawne.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[<em>Laughs<\/em>] Well, that\u2019s an interesting statement, you know? Without going into too many spoilers for Season 9, I will say this: Just like with Frost, the Negative Reverse Flash is dead. I mean, dead, dead, dead. Okay? This is a final death. Frost, I can tell you right now, is <em>not<\/em> coming back. Just like the Negative Reverse Flash is not coming back. However, Danielle Panabaker <em>is<\/em> coming back. And how could you have a season of <em>The Flash<\/em> without, at some point and some way, having Tom Cavanagh in it? So you never know where he might show up or how. It just won\u2019t be what you think.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What else can you tell us?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ll have a brand new Big Bad right out of the gate. We\u2019ll continue our graphic-novel format but we don\u2019t know how many episodes we have yet. So right now, there\u2019s two planned with interludes in the middle. That could change if we get a nice long order. I\u2019d love to get it back up to three arcs, like we did this past year. We\u2019ll have to wait.<\/p>\n<p>Because the nature of this season, when we were writing this finale, it was like, \u201cOkay, this could be the final episode of <em>The Flash<\/em>.\u201d That was our other reason to wrap everything up: It really wasn\u2019t until the 11th hour, until we were well into the writing of the script, that the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/news\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"2\" title=\"News\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">news<\/a> came down that we got a ninth season. So we had to change the ending. It used to be that the Negative Reverse Flash dies, everybody kumbayas and you actually have a longer sequence with Team Flash talking about where they might go next. And you would also have had a much longer sequence with Barry and Iris. They weren\u2019t just sitting on the couch. There was talk of kids\u2026let\u2019s say it was a little bit more romantic and perhaps sexier, right? Because they gotta have kids, we know that! And there would have been a final scene, obviously with <em>all<\/em> of Team Flash, you know, hugging and all that to give us the goodbye. But they didn\u2019t have to do that and so that put us in a position of, \u201cOoh, we can introduce next year\u2019s Big Bad right now\u2026let\u2019s do that!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>And that is not what Chillblaine (Jon Cor) finds at the end? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nope, it\u2019s not what he finds. [<em>Laughs<\/em>] Oh, I\u2019m so happy that it was that it kind of snuck through, right? Wow. Yes. Yes. I would rewatch that one scene if I were you. It\u2019s right in front of you.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1050311\" style=\"width: 2570px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1050311\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1050311 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA818a_0108r-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"The Flash - Jon Cor\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA818a_0108r-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA818a_0108r-434x289.jpg 434w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA818a_0108r-855x570.jpg 855w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA818a_0108r-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA818a_0108r-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA818a_0108r-234x155.jpg 234w, https:\/\/www.tvinsider.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/FLA818a_0108r-570x380.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-1050311\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Colin Bentley\/The CW<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Oh, the glowing rock!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes! But what does it mean? I can\u2019t tell that but you will know very quickly, very quickly. That is the doorway into the first graphic novel. Actually, not <em>just<\/em> the first graphic novel. We\u2019re gonna do something a little different next year with our graphic novel format where there might be a little, how should we say, cross-pollination. One of the things I talked about with the staff is, \u201cHey, wouldn\u2019t it be cool to see more of our two Big Bads next year, maybe in the same place at the same time?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I just think it\u2019s so fun. And you know, I have made no secret of my love for Zoom. So I put a little Easter egg in 815 because I\u2019ve always wanted to get Zoom and Godspeed together. I think they would be a great team\u2026I can\u2019t guarantee it [ever happening] but I am gonna try.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well, there\u2019s always The Flash Museum\u2026they could be housed together in an exhibit of villains.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh, that\u2019s right. I forgot that! It\u2019s funny you should mention that. When it was going to be a <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">series<\/a> finale, the end of this episode originally had STAR Labs being destroyed and it was going to be rebuilt into The Flash Museum. That got dropped, but I could see that happening towards the end of next year.<\/p>\n<p>And actually, from the beginning of Season 8, I wanted everybody to see Armageddon. But you couldn\u2019t really see Armageddon because Barry has to prevent it in the first five episodes. Then I thought about the end of Season 8 and realized we could see Armageddon in an unexpected way. So the Armageddon-like battle between Negative Reverse Flash and The Flash would have originally destroyed even more of the town. It would have destroyed STAR Labs, hence, allowing us to rebuild it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>OK, so if Seasons 6 to 8 were the WestAllen Omnibus, what sort of vibe do you see for Season 9?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Barry and Iris are now in, let\u2019s call it \u201cPhase 2.\u201d And I always think of stories in larger terms, so I\u2019m kind of thinking of the next Omnibus in terms of two years, Seasons 9 and 10. And I know what you\u2019re thinking, \u201cEric, are we getting a Season 1o?\u201d Right, right, I\u2019m just trying to get to 9, but as far as my thinking goes, I\u2019m thinking now of a new two-year plan to get us to 200 episodes, which would be in Season 10. I don\u2019t know if we\u2019ll get to do that, but I gotta have a plan. And in this new kind of Omnibus, I want it to be fun, a little bit sexier and a little bit more romance mixed in with the action.<\/p>\n<p>I want us to come out of the darkness into a little bit of light. And honestly, that\u2019s perhaps in reaction to the world right now. I need some fun and I think our audience does, too.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>The Flash<\/em>, Season 9, 2023, The CW<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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