{"id":469231,"date":"2022-06-30T17:46:34","date_gmt":"2022-06-30T14:46:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/soccer-mommy-touches-down\/"},"modified":"2022-06-30T17:46:34","modified_gmt":"2022-06-30T14:46:34","slug":"soccer-mommy-touches-down","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/soccer-mommy-touches-down\/","title":{"rendered":"#Soccer Mommy touches down"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a285fd210aee\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" 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href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/soccer-mommy-touches-down\/#%E2%80%9CSoccer_Mommy_touches_down%E2%80%9D\" >&#8220;Soccer Mommy touches down&#8221;<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h1><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"%E2%80%9CSoccer_Mommy_touches_down%E2%80%9D\"><\/span>&#8220;Soccer Mommy touches down&#8221;<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h1>\n<div class=\"content_blocks\">\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<style>\n<p> article.custom .custom-title, article.custom .custom-media .caption {\n   color: ;\n }<\/p>\n<p> article.custom .custom-attribution, article.custom .custom-attribution a {\n   color: ;\n }<\/p>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234203\" class=\"content_block flush title center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"custom-title\">\n      Soccer Mommy touches down\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-description\">\n      Sophie Allison talks self-immolation and burnout on the latest episode of The FADER Interview.\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-attribution\">\n<div class=\"author\">\n    <span><br \/>\n      By <span class=\"credit_name\">Alex Robert Ross<\/span><br \/>\n  <\/span><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-media\">\n<div class=\" image center_align\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-1-Sophie-Hur-1_qnyyay\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"Soccer Mommy touches down\"><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><\/p>\n<p>      Sophie Hur<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"custom_share_buttons_top \" style=\"\">\n<div id=\"new_socials_bottom\" class=\"new_socials_footer  \">\n<p>      <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" 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as a purifying force, and a bleak nod to Sylvia Plath. \u201cDarkness Forever\u201d is a grotesque, sludgy song, cut through in its mid-section by Allison shrieking in <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>arent horror. It\u2019s the centerpiece of Allison\u2019s best album yet, and a demonstration in microcosm of how far the 24-year-old has come since releasing her first demos in 2016.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            Allison\u2019s debut album, <i>Clean<\/i>, was a promising collection from a clearly gifted and empathetic young singer-songwriter. 2020\u2019s <i>Color Theory<\/i> \u2014 which I spoke to Allison about at the time for The FADER Interview \u2014 was more ambitious, a rumination on sickness and mortality split into three movements, inspired to some extent by the melodies of Avril Lavigne and Taylor Swift but lyrically in a different universe. <i>Sometimes, Forever<\/i> is the rare album that builds on that ambition. The darkness might overwhelm her at points, but there\u2019s light here too: bounding melodies and careening guitars and witty, even funny, lyrical flourishes. It was produced by Daniel Lopatin (Oneohtrix Point Never), who most recently produced The Weeknd\u2019s gargantuan <i>Dawn FM<\/i>. That Allison was excited to work with someone whose music seemingly exists so far from her comfort zone is a testament to her inventiveness; that her songs and her own flair for production completely steal the show is clear proof that she\u2019s already one of her generation\u2019s most interesting rock musicians.<\/p>\n<p>            Just before <i>Sometimes, Forever<\/i>\u2019s release, I called Allison at her home in Nashville to talk about striving for perfection, allowing ugliness into her music, and writing a straight-up ghost song for the first time.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234207\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left image\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Soccer-Mommy-General-3-Sophie-Hur_eydnfv\/the-fader-interview-soccer-mommy-sometimes-forever.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"Soccer Mommy touches down\"><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><\/p>\n<p>      Sophie Hur<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234210\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <i>This Q&amp;A is taken from the latest episode of The FADER Interview. To hear this week\u2019s show in full, and to access the podcast\u2019s archive, click <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#ebd5b8\" href=\"https:\/\/link.chtbl.com\/thefaderinterview\">here<\/a>.<br \/>\n          <\/i><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234208\" class=\"content_block paragraph embed triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\">\n    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm?p=TFI7834680816\" width=\"100%\" height=\"482\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234211\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>Just before the release of <i>Color Theory<\/i>, you and I spoke at The FADER office in New York. Maybe I didn\u2019t realize at the time what was going on, but the interviews you\u2019ve given in the lead up to \u201cSometimes, Forever\u201d have suggested that was a pretty tricky time. What was going on for you in that period between finalizing the album and releasing it?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Sophie Allison:<\/b> I was just burnt. The longest break I had was a month since I was 19. It had been a long time of going really hard and I was just tired. I missed normalcy. As much as I love <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/trip-and-travel\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"10\" title=\"Trip &amp; Travel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">travel<\/a>ing and touring, I missed hanging out with friends, relaxing, doing boring errands, not living out of a suitcase. I was still ready to keep doing more, but it was a blessing in disguise to have some time to chill. We were supposed to go to South By [Southwest 2020] a week before it got canceled. We knew we were gonna have to cancel the stuff that we had going in the summer, but at the time, there was still the idea that  maybe by the fall, everything would be fine. It felt like an indefinite break and I treated it as such. I was like, \u201cWe\u2019ll go back when we go back. There\u2019s literally nothing we can do about that.\u201d I would\u2019ve never made that choice for myself.. It would\u2019ve been very scary choosing to do that. It would\u2019ve felt like possibly some terrible decision, even though in reality, it probably wouldn\u2019t be that big of a deal.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>You wrote about darkness and depression on that album, and I assumed instinctively  that there was something cathartic about that: By getting it off your chest, you expelled and organized those thoughts on the page. Is that too simplistic a view?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            It is and it isn\u2019t. It\u2019s thinking through something and not necessarily getting it off of your chest, but taking months of analyzing it and figuring out how I feel about it and what I think about it, and then being able to compile it all. It\u2019s very satisfying in that sense, but of course you don\u2019t write a song and say, \u201cI\u2019m over that, onto the next thing.\u201d There are certain things that you write about that are consistent your whole life and are always changing. But when I write a song, it feels like I\u2019ve figured out everything that I\u2019m thinking on this [thing], and I finally know how to say it in a concrete way, and I don\u2019t have to keep running through thoughts in my head constantly. [So] it does, in a sense, help stop that repetition and that cycle of driving yourself crazy thinking about the same things over and over again, but it doesn\u2019t change how you feel about them. It just gives you a sense of self-awareness on the issue, so you understand yourself a little better.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Given all of that, and how burned out you felt before what was meant to be the <i>Color Theory<\/i>, tour, how creative did you feel in those first months of lockdown? When did you start writing again?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            The first song from <i>Sometimes, Forever<\/i> was written in summer 2019. I wasn\u2019t sure what the goal of the record was yet; I had just written a few things that I was having fun with. But having time to be at home and write\u2026 It wasn\u2019t a surge of creativity, I wouldn\u2019t say, but it did give me time to focus all the creativity I was feeling.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234212\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Soccer Mommy - Still (Official Audio)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/P13rHyOYjKA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('234212');\n<\/script><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234214\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>Tell me about \u201cStill,\u201d the last song on the album.  If that\u2019s the first song you wrote, did you feel pretty confident that it would go on a record?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I did want to put it on a record. Ending songs, I don\u2019t know why, I always know. I\u2019m like, \u201cThat\u2019s it. That\u2019s the closer.\u201d I like ending things on a grim, beautiful note, but I didn\u2019t know what the record was gonna sound like or what direction it would go. When I wrote the song, I was in turmoil. Listening back to the demos when we were going into the studio, I was like, \u201cWow, \u2018Still\u2019 is so different from some of the ones that were written six months later just in where I was in my life and how happy I was.\u201d It\u2019s crazy to look back on a song fondly but also be like, \u201cI was really going through it.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>The fact you wrote \u201cStill\u201d and \u201cDarkness Forever\u201d back to back is\u2026 The word turmoil does seem appropriate. It\u2019s not as long as [<i>Color Theory<\/i>\u2019s] \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#ebd5b8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=NEjOzDFzx10\">Yellow Is the Color Of Her Eyes<\/a>,\u201d but I think it\u2019s very much still the centerpiece of this album. I know we sort of overuse the word \u201ccathartic,\u201d but this one feels literally purgative.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            When I wrote that song, I was obsessed with this idea of fire as a source of ritualistic purifying. I had this fantasy in my head of someone tormented deciding to burn down their house and themselves to expel all of the evil and free themself from darkness. I tend to be drawn to metaphoric ideas of cleansing and purging\u2026 when I\u2019m going through something that feels like an outside force of darkness or evil has descended upon me. I love Christian mythology for that reason. I\u2019m not Christian and I wasn\u2019t raised Christian, but I think the ideas of good and evil and light and dark and purity are beautiful in a literary sense.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>When we spoke in 2020, you said, \u201cI\u2019m pretty bad about obsessively reading things about myself, because I just want to know if it\u2019s out there, what people think and try and perfect myself from it.\u201d There\u2019s been this growing sense, throughout your career, that you\u2019re striving for a perfection that you know that you can\u2019t quite get. Is that something you\u2019ve only realized about yourself over the last few years?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            Oh no, I definitely realized it before. I\u2019ve been this way long before I was doing music as a career. I am a perfectionist \u2014 not in every sense of my life, but in things I care about \u2014 and I\u2019m very driven. There\u2019s no goal I could reach that would satisfy me. I think I\u2019ve become more accepting of that. I shouldn\u2019t even imagine it because there\u2019s no goal that will be this romantic sense of success that\u2019s unmeasurable in reality.  I\u2019m still driven to make music that feels more satisfying and more perfect, but not to expect some sense of satisfaction from things in life that are completely based on unmeasurable ideals.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234215\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Soccer Mommy - Darkness Forever (Official Audio)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7rXeXsGghMg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('234215');\n<\/script><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234216\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>Your burnout definitely comes through on \u201cUnholy Affliction\u201d \u2014 this sense of feeling mechanical and perfectly efficient, capitalism against creativity. You\u2019re six years into a career. This is your third album, and there have been EPs and singles and a lot of touring, and then an enforced break. How much of a hamster wheel have you felt?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I feel it all the time, but since the last record, I\u2019ve gotten better at realizing you\u2019ve got to play the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">game<\/a>, do stuff that you don\u2019t want to do. You\u2019ve got to do things that are just about helping the record sell [and not] what you\u2019re passionate about, just like any other job. You don\u2019t get to do everything that you want and nothing else. But I can\u2019t try to care about a photo shoot. It doesn\u2019t matter. I don\u2019t even want pictures of myself, so it doesn\u2019t matter how it turns out. It\u2019s just something you do so you can keep making music. <\/p>\n<p>            <b>There\u2019s a purity of thought to that. It\u2019s interesting because around your last record, you talked about mainstream pop influences you had in your teenage years. A lot of the artists you were talking about back then were forced to play the game. They had to care about photo shoots. Has some of your ability to reject that come from seeing how shitty it was for people in your position before?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            At a certain point, you hit this wall where it\u2019s like, \u201cI can either spend most of my time being myself, or being the artist.\u201d Not that they\u2019re necessarily different people, but spending all your time around other musicians, other people from the industry, fans, going to parties with all these people and not your old friends from home, you hit this split where you can\u2019t hold onto both lives tightly without losing one of them. I guess it does correlate to success \u2014 being more involved and more excited about doing lots of fashion stuff and knowing other celebrities and making connections and networking \u2014 but it\u2019s just not for me. It\u2019s just not what I want. So, if that means my growth will be slower, that\u2019s just\u2026 It is what it is.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>You were talking about your drive and your desire for perfection. Is scale a part of that? People aren\u2019t ashamed to say, \u201cI want to be fucking huge. I want to be massive. I want to be a superstar. It doesn\u2019t necessarily mean I want to play the game, but I would be cool with that.\u201d Is that something that enters your head? Or, is that sense of perfection, that ambition, purely geared towards, \u201cI want to express this feeling I have absolutely perfectly?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            If this was a decade where people making music like me can have a big pop song as a hit, I\u2019d love that. But it\u2019s more about trying to make a perfect record or a perfect song and getting to see people\u2019s reaction\u2026 and less, \u201cReal success will be when I play Madison Square Garden.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>For all this drive for perfection, there\u2019s still a beautiful sort of messiness to this album. It\u2019s not like you\u2019ve tried to sand down the edges here. If anything, your music has gotten more experimental as you\u2019ve gone on. More sounds have come in. What has driven you towards these big, ambitious, weird sounds that have found their way into your records increasingly as time\u2019s gone by?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I think pure beauty and ugliness are equally beautiful. With art in <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/general\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"3\" title=\"General\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">general<\/a>, if you only show the beauty, it\u2019s one-dimensional. Love is beautiful and safe and comforting, but it\u2019s also the most painful thing in the world at times, and not even because someone\u2019s hurting you. Sharing someone\u2019s pain is intense, and it\u2019s more than just soft and beautiful. It elicits a much more layered feeling when you can capture the good and the bad.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234218\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Soccer Mommy - Unholy Affliction (Official Audio)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gfNHwboQ0yU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('234218');\n<\/script><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234220\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>Is that part of what drew you to working with Daniel Lopatin?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I\u2019m a big fan of his, and even bigger after knowing him. I\u2019ve always thought his ambient stuff is so beautiful, but also eerie and nasty at points. I absolutely love it. When we were talking about the next record, my label sent over a list [of producers] and he was on it, and I was im<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">media<\/a>tely like, \u201cThis is what I want to do. I don\u2019t even care if he hasn\u2019t worked on much rock stuff, I trust his taste.\u201d Writing for this album had a magical sense to it, so I was like, \u201cWhatever we do, it\u2019s gonna be cool and different and we\u2019re gonna have a really fun time.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>You\u2019ve said you can get quite territorial with your music. You\u2019ve been working with Gabe Wax for so long and you guys have a very deep understanding. Obviously you\u2019re working with Dan because you want things to be weird and different and new. How easy was it to allow him in?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I don\u2019t like sharing my songs unless I pick someone who seems like they get what I\u2019m wanting to do. It\u2019s about finding someone who I trust will get us there in an interesting way. There was a little bit of anxiety\u2026 but I just had this sense. I was like such a big fan [of Dan] that\u2026 I wanted him to go all out. I didn\u2019t want him to come in and try to be safe and chill. So I wasn\u2019t scared, just excited.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234221\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Soccer Mommy - Following Eyes (Official Audio)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-39ssPZOm6U?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('234221');\n<\/script><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-234222\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>I wanted to finish by going back to where we were by talking about \u201cFollowing Eyes,\u201d which is maybe the first proper attempt at full-on fiction in the Soccer Mommy catalog.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            Maybe. \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#ebd5b8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=acRDJTYHWIo\">Lucy<\/a>\u201d gets pretty close. \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#ebd5b8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=kXPyZqfIces\">Still Clean<\/a>\u201d gets pretty close. But yeah, this one is just a straight-up ghost story I made for fun after I made a creepy lick.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>The lyrical content dovetails well with the darker themes on the record. Was it fun to write?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            Oh, yeah. It was written between two of the recording sessions [when] I thought the album was already done. I was playing around with this really heavy tuning and made this riff. I [wanted] to write a creepy ghost story with it and make it eerie and spooky and ghastly. And it was great. It felt like it had to go on the record because of the sound and the [theme]. It fit perfectly.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Have you started writing more yet? Have you been able to pause?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            I\u2019ve written one or two more, but it\u2019s very abstract currently. It\u2019s not some plan for the next record. I mean, I\u2019m sure they will end up on the next record, but it\u2019s very up in the air right now.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"author\">\n    <span><br \/>\n      By <span class=\"credit_name\">Alex Robert Ross<\/span><br \/>\n  <\/span><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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