{"id":581174,"date":"2023-06-29T19:28:12","date_gmt":"2023-06-29T16:28:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/lucinda-williams-is-the-last-living-outlaw\/"},"modified":"2023-06-29T19:28:12","modified_gmt":"2023-06-29T16:28:12","slug":"lucinda-williams-is-the-last-living-outlaw","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/lucinda-williams-is-the-last-living-outlaw\/","title":{"rendered":"#Lucinda Williams is the last living outlaw"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"content_blocks\">\n<style>\n #content_block-249416 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<\/style>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-249416 {\n   background: ;\n   margin-bottom: 60px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> article.custom .custom-title, article.custom .custom-<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">media<\/a> .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }<\/p>\n<p> article.custom .custom-attribution, article.custom .custom-attribution a {\n   color: #301701;\n }<\/p>\n<p> article.custom .content_block blockquote.pull_quote {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249416\" class=\"content_block flush title center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"custom-title\">\n      Lucinda Williams is the last living outlaw\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-description\">\n      The unflinchingly honest singer-songwriter discusses her new album, the state of contemporary country, and her secret to career longevity on The FADER interview.\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-attribution\">\n<div class=\"author\">\n    <span><br \/>\n      By <span class=\"credit_name\">Holly Devon<\/span><br \/>\n  <\/span><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-media\">\n<div class=\" image center_align\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams2_8727_ByDannyClinch-scaled_oj5zty\/lucinda-williams-photo-by-danny-clinch.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"Lucinda Williams is the last living outlaw\"><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>    <span class=\"caption\"><br \/>\n      Lucinda Williams. Photo by Danny Clinch.<br \/>\n    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n      \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"custom_share_buttons_top \" style=\"\">\n<div id=\"new_socials_bottom\" class=\"new_socials_footer  \">\n<p>      <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" width=\"40\" height=\"40\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thefader.com\/assets\/FDR_SocialSharing_Facebook-747312c39722d47504a80f02500b8d4ad2e36acf922bad1c83799db1bc77f605.png\" alt=\"Fdr socialsharing facebook\"><!-- <span>Share<\/span> --><\/p>\n<p>  <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefader.com%2F2023%2F06%2F29%2Flucinda-williams-is-the-last-living-outlaw%3Futm_source%3Df%26utm_medium%3Dtw%26utm_campaign%3Dshare&amp;text=Lucinda%20Williams%20is%20the%20last%20living%20outlaw&amp;via=thefader\" class=\"new_social_footer_button twitter new_social_share_button\" data-ga-event-category=\"Social Share\" data-ga-event-label=\"Twitter\" data-ga-on=\"click\" data-ga-event-action=\"cilck\"><\/p>\n<p>    <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" width=\"40\" height=\"40\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thefader.com\/assets\/FDR_SocialSharing_Twitter-8d78f695280aa3f8a4461702c68e9fcbfd6042af1600c62d49fdec4b735fb57a.png\" alt=\"Fdr socialsharing twitter\"><!-- <span>Tweet<\/span> --><\/a><\/p>\n<p>        <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thefader.com\/assets\/logo-snapchat-5f1563935ac089d0cf1773f642ddbfb6cdb16e8c4ac14fec95a3c11b6f963389.svg\" alt=\"Logo snapchat\"><!-- <span>Snap<\/span> --><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249417 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249417,  #content_block-249417 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249417 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249417\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <span style=\"color:#301701\" class=\"lead-text\">Lucinda Williams is a master<\/span> of the art of the long <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">game<\/a>. A consummate disciple of American music, Williams has always operated under the assumption that when the craft comes first, the rest will follow \u2014 a rare quality in an industry that measures success by the numbers. She made redundant the question of what exactly her music was to others; her main concern was to free her songs to take on lives of their own.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            The slow build-up of her early career finally resulted in widespread acclaim with the release of her 1998 Grammy-winning record, <i>Car Wheels on A Gravel Road<\/i>. A fanbase already stacked with critics and celebrated singer-songwriters finally burst open its doors to the outside world. To this day, <i>Car Wheels<\/i> remains Williams\u2019s best known album. But her musical evolution remained as unaffected by external pressures after her breakthrough as it was before: From that record\u2019s much-anticipated 2001 follow-up, <i>Essence<\/i>, to her latest release, <i>Stories from a Rock n Roll Heart<\/i>, every one of her creations is rooted in her present moment. Not for love, money, or domineering record executives has Lucinda Williams ever tried to sound like anyone other than herself. <\/p>\n<p>            While her legions of die-hard fans may respect her unflagging integrity, it takes more than that to earn the kind of obsessive devotion she has inspired since the release of her first album in 1979. If she occasionally comes across as overprotective, those who love her understand it is because she is carrying precious cargo. From her inimitable drawl to the delicately fashioned lyrics that are by turns wry and blisteringly sincere, every aspect of her music feels like an encounter with the truth, drawn from a life lived close to the bone and free of restraint. <\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            When I interviewed Williams, it was with a sharp mind and generous spirit that she reflected on what it takes to dedicate your life to music, her one true religion. <\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249419\" class=\"content_block paragraph image triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams_byDannyClinch_8320_Color-1-scaled_ymoyle\/danny-clinch.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"Lucinda Williams is the last living outlaw\"><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>    <span class=\"caption\"><br \/>\n      Danny Clinch<br \/>\n    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n      \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249422 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249422,  #content_block-249422 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249422 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249422\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <i>This Q&amp;A is taken from the latest episode of The FADER Interview podcast. To hear this week\u2019s show in full, and to access the podcast\u2019s archive, click <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#921019\" href=\"https:\/\/link.chtbl.com\/thefaderinterview\">here<\/a>.<i><br \/>\n          <\/i><\/i><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249423\" class=\"content_block paragraph embed triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\">\n    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm?p=TFI7834680816\" width=\"100%\" height=\"482\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249425 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249425,  #content_block-249425 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249425 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249425\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>The FADER: Hey, Lucinda Williams! How\u2019s your tour going so far?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>Lucinda Williams:<\/b> It\u2019s been going great.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Any standout moments so far?<\/b> <\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            The main one would be the fact that I\u2019m even touring since my stroke. I didn\u2019t even know if I was gonna be able to stand up on stage or if I\u2019d have to sit down. I haven\u2019t had to sit down. I\u2019m not playing guitar, though. That\u2019s the big difference. It was hard at first, but now I\u2019m getting used to singing without playing, which is kind of fun in and of itself. It frees you up a little bit more.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>There\u2019s so much geographical specificity in your lyrics. I think about Sylvia leaving Beaumont, Texas in \u201cThe Night\u2019s Too Long,\u201d coming home to that house on Beaumont Avenue in \u201cBus to Baton Rouge\u201d on <i>Stories from a Rock and Roll Heart<\/i>. How would you describe the relationship between your music and place?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I guess I started doing that to add color to the songs, because I think it\u2019s more interesting if you name a town so people can relate to it better. Also, the names of the towns are so great, like Vicksburg and Slidell. There\u2019s a kind of musicality to them. I\u2019m still writing songs the same way, and I like to think I\u2019m always growing and developing and getting better. I certainly haven\u2019t changed my point of view about things. The style of music I like is the same. I still don\u2019t like contemporary country music.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Why not?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I just don\u2019t like the production. I don\u2019t feel like the songs are as good as they used to be. There are a couple of contemporary country songs out right now that a friend of mine introduced me to that I thought were really good. What\u2019s interesting is that the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">theme<\/a> in both of them is, \u201cWhat happened to country?\u201d So I do open up my mind and I listen to see what\u2019s going on.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249432 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249432,  #content_block-249432 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249432 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #921019;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249432\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left pull_quote\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"pull_quote\"><p>\u201cIm still writing songs the same way, and I like to think I\u2019m always growing and developing and getting better. I certainly haven\u2019t changed my point of view about things.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-249443,  #content_block-249443 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249443 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249443\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>Your lyrics are really some of the best I know. What\u2019s the process?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            Usually, the first part of the idea is what I call stream of consciousness. Stuff comes out and you just write it down. You\u2019re not trying to make everything rhyme yet. After that, I\u2019ll go through and organize it into verses and a refrain, and make sure the rhyme scheme is good, and think of the melody. Once I get the melody, then I need to go back in and make the lyrics fit.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Would you say the process has stayed consistent throughout your career, or is it evolving?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            It\u2019s been pretty consistent, except now I\u2019m more confident about getting whatever comes out first down on paper, not worrying so much right away about it being perfect because that\u2019ll come later. The song will evolve as time goes on. <\/p>\n<p>            <b>I feel like you have a real trust in and spiritual connection to music.<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            Thank you for recognizing that. Even at an older age, I\u2019m still very idealistic and passionate about what I do.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249440\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Where The Song Will Find Me\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/z6MOSoNEHGE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('249440');\n<\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249426 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249426,  #content_block-249426 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249426 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249426\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>On the new album, I love the line, &#8220;The errand of the fool has carried me this far to the place where the song can find me.&#8221;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I have to credit my husband with that, Tom Overby. He&#8217;s my manager and my husband. We\u2019ve started collaborating on songs.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>How has that been?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            It&#8217;s going great. I never thought it would be possible, but it just happened organically. We started doing it on the last album, and it just happened gradually and by itself. We didn&#8217;t sit down and say, &#8220;Let&#8217;s write a song together.&#8221; It was more like I\u2019d be working on something and \u2014 he was kind of shy about it at first \u2014 he&#8217;d say, &#8220;I&#8217;ve got these lines here and you might wanna look at them and maybe you can use them in something or whatever. You don&#8217;t have to, I just wanted to show them to you.&#8221; And I\u2019d take them and look at them, and they were good. <\/p>\n<p>            He kept it secret for a while, but it turns out he\u2019d really been into creative writing when he was in college. He ended up becoming a record company guy, which is ironic. One time, I got mad at him because he was supposed to meet me somewhere and he didn&#8217;t show up, and I said, &#8220;Fucking record company guy.&#8221; I hung up the phone, like, &#8220;Wow, I&#8217;m dating the enemy.&#8221; But it ended up being great. We ended up becoming really good friends and lovers.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249442\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"New Lucinda Williams Album &#039;Stories from a Rock N Roll Heart&#039; Out 6\/30\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ZkaEISLm7pE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('249442');\n<\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249427 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249427,  #content_block-249427 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249427 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249427\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>I\u2019m a little curious about \u201cNew York Comeback.\u201d Are you referring to something specific, or is that a social commentary?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            It\u2019s just a metaphor for a comeback. There\u2019ve been universal comebacks, and then my personal comeback from my stroke. New York City had a comeback after 9\/11. The whole country had to come back after the pandemic. Nashville had to come back after a tornado that happened around the same time as my stroke. It\u2019s almost biblical: the pandemic, a tornado, my stroke, all around the same time.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Is there a guiding theme on this album, something that\u2019s been particularly on your mind? I imagine the stroke is at the forefront.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            There\u2019s a thread of surviving, that uphill battle, strength, perseverance, coming back.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249434 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249434,  #content_block-249434 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249434 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #921019;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249434\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left pull_quote\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"pull_quote\"><p>\u201cThey wanna get your songs on the radio and figure out the rest of it later. I happened to have some success in spite of not sounding commercial, which is hard to do.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-249448,  #content_block-249448 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249448 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249448\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>\u201cNever Gonna Fade Away\u201d is as good a summary of your artistic ethos as any. It reminds me of the way I see your career. You\u2019ve managed to avoid the pitfalls of the easy-come, easy-go success. What do you think is the key to your staying power?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            Because I\u2019m stubborn. The blues guys used to say, \u201cI\u2019m too mean to die.\u201d Well, I\u2019ve just seen too much of it in the music world. That\u2019s what \u201cReal Live Bleeding Fingers And Broken Guitar Strings\u201d is about, the tendency of the rockstar. And I wrote a song called \u201cLittle Rock Star\u201d that talks about that self-destructive thing.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Do you think the desire for fame is part of that?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on in their heads. Maybe they just think on some level, subconsciously, that self-destructiveness goes along with being famous. Or maybe they\u2019re self-destructive first and somehow manage to get famous regardless of their self-destructive tendencies. Eventually it catches up with them. It\u2019s hard to say.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Were you concerned with getting famous in the beginning of your career?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            I wanted to be successful to a certain degree. But I was also soaking it all in and taking things a step at a time. I definitely didn\u2019t want to get famous at the risk of sabotaging my music. I remember being really afraid of that because I\u2019d seen it happen before: Really talented artists would make an album, and I\u2019d be like, \u201cWhy did they do this?\u201d It\u2019d be overproduced, trying to get on the radio. I was deathly afraid of that.<\/p>\n<p>            I was like, \u201cI will not be overproduced. I will not let anybody do that to my music.\u201d That made it harder to get a record deal because, of course, that\u2019s what they want to do. They wanna get your songs on the radio and figure out the rest of it later. I happened to have some success in spite of not sounding commercial, which is hard to do. I think that\u2019s just going out and playing live as much as I could everywhere. That\u2019s all I did. That\u2019s still the best way to do it, I think.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249449\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Car Wheels On A Gravel Road\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/SsO04VzOW2c?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('249449');\n<\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249430 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249430,  #content_block-249430 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249430 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249430\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b><i>Car Wheels on a Gravel Road<\/i> had a very specific sound, and then you took a new direction on <i>Essence<\/i>. It\u2019s a pleasure to watch you evolve. Is there a conscious sense of the way that your relationship to sound changes, or is it all instinctual?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I was conscious of the fact that <i>Car Wheels<\/i> made such a statement and did so well. I was kind of terrified going into the next record after, because it\u2019s got to be at least as good or better, but I think I did that. For a while, <i>Essence<\/i> fell in the background and wasn\u2019t talked about as much as Car Wheels. But over time, people started coming up to me saying <i>Essence<\/i> was their favorite album.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>I like thinking about you and your husband writing songs together in your apartment. Are there any other collaborations that stand out to you? You\u2019ve worked with such an incredible roster of musicians over the years.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I haven\u2019t really been successful at co-writing up until now. I\u2019ve gotten together with people to try to do that, but it\u2019s gotta be the right person. A lot of people thought \u2014 and I thought this too \u2014 that if you put two really good songwriters together, they\u2019re gonna write this massively amazing song, but it doesn\u2019t always work that way. I got together with John Prine to try to write. We went and had dinner and drank a bunch of wine, and then we went to the Bluebird and ordered another bottle of wine, and you can see what\u2019s coming: As the night wore on, we just drank more and we didn\u2019t really get anything done, but we had a great time. <\/p>\n<p>            There\u2019s actually a new song about that. I did a memorial tribute concert to John Prine at the Ryman not too long ago, and everybody did a John Prine song. I performed that song, which I actually wrote with Tom and Travis Stevens, tour manager. He\u2019s a singer-songwriter, quite good, and I wasn\u2019t able to play \u2014 that\u2019s one reason I veered into this collaboration thing. Travis would play, then I would add some more lyrics or Tom would or Travis would about getting together with John Prine and trying to write a song. It\u2019s called \u201cWhat Could Go Wrong,\u201d and everybody loved it because it sounds like a John Prine song, kind of.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Would you say your more successful collaborations have been less writing, more musical, like Steve Earle or Emmylou Harris?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            Yeah, singing on their albums. But Steve and I have been talking about trying to write some stuff together. We have a kinship that way. Steve Earle is the yin to my yang. We\u2019re the male and female outlaws in Nashville.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249418\" class=\"content_block paragraph image triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/Lucinda_Williams5_8171_ByDannyClinch-scaled_qqbahv\/danny-clinch.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 640px\" alt=\"Lucinda Williams is the last living outlaw\"><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>    <span class=\"caption\"><br \/>\n      Danny Clinch<br \/>\n    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n      \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n #content_block-249431 {\n   background: ;\n   padding-bottom: 40px;\n }<\/p>\n<p> #content_block-249431,  #content_block-249431 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-249431 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #301701;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-249431\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>How do you feel your relationship to country is affected by living in Nashville? Do you feel surrounded by it?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            You can be, but you don\u2019t have to be. If you listen to a certain radio station, you\u2019ll hear it all day long. But I\u2019m trying to soften my view about it a bit and not be so angry.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>It\u2019s hard! You naturally want to have an artistic community where you\u2019re feeding and pushing each other.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            There definitely is that here; it\u2019s just underground. It helps me also, when I\u2019m feeling frustrated about that kind of thing, to pull out my Bob Dylan and Neil Young albums, because they\u2019ve followed the right path.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>What\u2019s hard about that conversation is that it can seem judgmental, and I don\u2019t think it is. There are so many ways to choose a career. Did you experience hostility for trying to do something different at the beginning of your career, when everyone was trying to put you in a mold?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            Most of that stuff was happening inside the offices of record companies, so nobody knew about it. When I made the self-titled Rough Trade album, the label wanted a single, and before they put that out, they sent it to this guy in New York City to remix it for the radio. We got the remix back, and the record label guy calls me up and says, \u201cHey, come over and listen to it!\u201d So I went over to his office and he\u2019s jumping up and down in his Gucci shoes going, \u201cIsn\u2019t this great? It sounds like a real record now!\u201d The fact is, I hated it. I thought it sucked. The bass and drums were pushed way up front. The vocal was pushed back. It sounded horrible, I thought. That was the beginning of the struggle with the record label thing.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>There\u2019s something encouraging about that tension, though, because it speaks to the power of art. When businessmen are anxious about something they can\u2019t quite hold, it means you have something subversive. That\u2019s \u201cthe glory\u2026 over the fame.\u201d How would you define the glory?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            The glory to me is being successful and living on your art, having your art support you and being admired by your peers and all the emotional satisfaction that comes from it. And being able to quit your day job. That always helps.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"author\">\n    <span><br \/>\n      By <span class=\"credit_name\">Holly Devon<\/span><br \/>\n  <\/span><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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