{"id":590469,"date":"2023-09-09T15:30:00","date_gmt":"2023-09-09T12:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/toronto-doc-sorry-not-sorry-asks-if-louis-c-k-was-ever-really-canceled\/"},"modified":"2023-09-09T15:30:00","modified_gmt":"2023-09-09T12:30:00","slug":"toronto-doc-sorry-not-sorry-asks-if-louis-c-k-was-ever-really-canceled","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/toronto-doc-sorry-not-sorry-asks-if-louis-c-k-was-ever-really-canceled\/","title":{"rendered":"#Toronto: Doc \u2018Sorry\/Not Sorry\u2019 Asks If Louis C.K. Was Ever Really Canceled"},"content":{"rendered":"
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\n In 2017, like a lot of Louis\u202fC.K. fans, filmmaker Caroline Suh wasn\u2019t sure what to make of the allegations of sexual misconduct against the comedia<\/a>n that were detailed in a New York Times<\/em> story. The report included female comics\u2019 accounts of C.K. exposing himself to them, which he admitted to, and led FX, Netflix and C.K.\u2019s management company, 3Arts, to drop him.<\/p>\n

\n \u201cI watched his show religiously,\u201d Suh says. \u201cAnd when the article came out, I was surprised and honestly thought, \u2018Is it really that bad that he should be banished from the scene?\u2019 I didn\u2019t really know how to think about it.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n Nearly six years later, now that C.K. has sold out Madison Square Garden and won two Grammys for his comedy albums, Suh and her co-director, Cara Mones, interrogate questions about sex and power raised by the comic\u2019s downfall and comeback in their new documentary, Sorry\/Not Sorry.<\/em>
The Times<\/em>-produced film, which premieres Sept. 10 at TIFF, includes interviews with women who spoke up about C.K., like writer and producer Jen Kirkman, comedians Abby Schachner and Megan Koester and male colleagues of his like Parks and Recreation<\/em> co-creator Mike Schur and Comedy Cellar owner Noam Dworman. Suh and Mones also mine archival footage of C.K.\u2019s performances and of other people talking about him, including a remarkable moment at a Q&A in May 2016 when a University of Chicago student asked Jon Stewart about allegations against C.K. that were percolating in comedy circles at the time but were not yet widely known. Watching Stewart\u2019s dismissive reaction, which resurfaced online after the Times<\/em> story ran 17 months later, is like seeing a time capsule of pre-#MeToo mores. \u201cThe hope was to present how people were reacting in real time,\u201d says Mones, \u201cto track how this story evolved.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n Suh, who directed for Netflix the Obamas\u2019 2023 series<\/a> Working: What We Do All Day<\/em> and the 2020 film Blackpink: Light Up the Sky,<\/em> launched Sorry\/Not Sorry<\/em> after a 2020 meeting with The New York Times,<\/em> which has been expanding its journalism into nonfiction film and TV projects like Time<\/em>, the 2021 Oscar-nominated Amazon documentary feature, and this year\u2019s Emmy-nominated Hulu series The 1619 Project.<\/em> \u201cI had been obsessing over the story, so I brought it up as something that I would be interested in, and they immediately were on board,\u201d Suh says. She recruited Mones, who had produced her Blackpink movie, \u201cbecause I\u2019m a Gen Xer,\u201d Suh says. \u201cAnd I knew that I had maybe some kind of calcified thoughts about what\u2019s normalized behavior.\u201d The millennial Mones says she was \u201cterrified\u201d by the idea. \u201cWhen she asked me to join, I wondered, \u2018What are we going to gain by giving Louis more attention?\u2019\u202f\u201d she recalls. \u201cAnd once I started to really understand Caroline\u2019s vision for the film, I realized how much had been missing from the conversation and how little I had known.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n The film details the backlash women who spoke publicly about C.K. experienced, from online harassment to dwindling work opportunities. Schachner, who had told the Times<\/em> about C.K. masturbating on the phone when she called to invite him to one of her shows, spoke out about C.K. because, as she says in the film, she would have wanted to have known about him herself. Kirkman, who was not in the original Times piece but had alluded to C.K.\u2019s treatment of women on her podcast without naming him, says in the film that she is participating because nothing has changed in the six years since the Times<\/em> story ran.<\/p>\n

\n One of the biggest challenges the filmmakers faced was enlisting industry figures to talk about C.K. \u201cPeople see it as only inviting career harm, and people don\u2019t want to be in the line of fire,\u201d Suh says. C.K. did not participate in the documentary, but the filmmakers used clips of his work, including a stand-up routine in which he talks about his misconduct as \u201cmy thing,\u201d implying that exposing himself is a harmless, if embarrassing, fetish. \u201cIn making the film, we came to realize that he did reframe it from being something that related to power dynamics into just his sexual kink,\u201d Suh says. \u201cThat was a revelation to us. And I had a lot of questions as a fan as to like, \u2018Oh, what is he saying exactly?\u2019\u202f\u201d<\/p>\n

\n At one point, Sorry\/Not Sorry<\/em> was set up at Showtime under the cable network\u2019s then-docs chief Vinnie Malhotra. When Showtime restructured early this year, Malhotra departed to become president of the Obamas\u2019 Higher Ground Productions and Showtime and the filmmakers parted ways. Now Suh and Mones will be seeking a distributor at\u00a0TIFF.<\/p>\n

\n In terms of audience, \u201cIt was always the hope that the film would draw both sides,\u201d Suh says, meaning both C.K. fans and people who are furious at him.<\/p>\n

\n Their biggest worry entering the festival, the filmmakers say, is for the women who participated in Sorry\/Not Sorry, none of whom will be at TIFF. \u201cWe\u2019re really nervous on their behalf,\u201d Suh says. \u201cThe biggest concern with the film at this point is how it\u2019s going to affect them.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n As for her own opinion on C.K. since she first read that Times<\/em> story in 2017, \u201cMy thinking has definitely evolved,\u201d Suh says, declining to say more. \u201cWe try to pose a lot of questions about it to get people thinking for themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n This story first app<\/a>eared in the Sept. 6 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine. Click here to subscribe<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n

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