{"id":626026,"date":"2024-06-28T19:07:03","date_gmt":"2024-06-28T16:07:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/what-eiko-ishibashi-gains-in-translation\/"},"modified":"2024-06-28T19:07:03","modified_gmt":"2024-06-28T16:07:03","slug":"what-eiko-ishibashi-gains-in-translation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/what-eiko-ishibashi-gains-in-translation\/","title":{"rendered":"#What Eiko Ishibashi gains in translation"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a284f8a5191a\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a284f8a5191a\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/what-eiko-ishibashi-gains-in-translation\/#The_Japanese_composer_discusses_the_circuitous_path_to_her_score_for_Ryusuke_Hamaguchis_Evil_Does_Not_Exist\" >The Japanese composer discusses the circuitous path to her score for Ryusuke Hamaguchi\u2019s Evil Does Not Exist.<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2 class=\"deck\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"The_Japanese_composer_discusses_the_circuitous_path_to_her_score_for_Ryusuke_Hamaguchis_Evil_Does_Not_Exist\"><\/span>The Japanese composer discusses the circuitous path to her score for Ryusuke Hamaguchi\u2019s <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i>.<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"content_blocks\">\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262406\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left image\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_F1_uqhuvj\/eiko-ishibashi-photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"What Eiko Ishibashi gains in translation\"><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>    <span class=\"caption\"><br \/>\n      Eiko Ishibashi. Photo by Jim O\u2019Rourke.<br \/>\n    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n      \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262407\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <span class=\"lead-text\">We open<\/span> on a long, steady tracking shot through the woods, the camera peering upward through a thin tree canopy into a bright winter sky. Gently swung cymbal <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/trip-and-travel\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"10\" title=\"Trip &amp; Travel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">trip<\/a>lets trickle up from the ground, followed by a pristine electric guitar from above, and symphonic strings that seep in through the sides and slowly saturate the mix. We follow the wandering lens and the hypnotic strings until they cut off abruptly, leaving us suspended in midair for a moment before we fall, quickly but not painfully, to the forest\u2019s frozen floor.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            The film is <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i>, renowned Japanese director Ryusuke Hamaguchi\u2019s second feature scored by Japanese composer Eiko Ishibashi. Their first creative partnership, 2021\u2019s Oscar-winning <i>Drive My Car<\/i>, was a relatively straightforward director-scorer affair, linked by a producer. But the working relationship that led to the new film was much more symbiotic. Watching and listening to its opening sequence out of context, it would be impossible to discern whether the music was made for the film or vice versa.<\/p>\n<p>            In fact, the film\u2019s orchestral theme is the only part of its score that Ishibashi composed after viewing its first cut. It was recorded in her longtime partner Jim O\u2019Rourke\u2019s studio, which sits next to the house they share in the Japanese countryside. She recorded the rest of the music in her own studio (within the home itself), before looking at the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">script<\/a> \u2014 some of it before Hamaguchi had even envisioned the footage he\u2019d shot in her area as belonging to a full-length film.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262408\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"EVIL DOES NOT EXIST - Official US Trailer\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zVY4lWfrbME?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('262408');\n<\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262409\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            Despite her impressive music catalog, Ishibashi has always been more fascinated by the world of film. Growing up with parents who took her to war <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">movies<\/a> instead of the American coming-of-age flicks her peers were watching, she developed an early taste for difficult material, gravitating in her later teens toward the work of John Cassavetes. <\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            Her earliest revelations in music started with tapes she made from the radio late at night, after her parents had gone to sleep. She\u2019d bring these to her local rental shop to ask for song identifications and recommendations based on what she liked and, via this route, had her mind blown by Joni Mitchell\u2019s <i>Hejira<\/i> and Miles Davis\u2019s <i>In a Silent Way<\/i>, as well as Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, and Peter Gabriel-era Genesis.<\/p>\n<p>            Her first exercises in music making \u2014 attempts to score her own experimental, eight-millimeter shorts \u2014 also came from these radio taping sessions, during which she\u2019d scan between channels and use the cassette recorder\u2019s pause button as a cutting tool. To this day, post-production is the stage of the creative process she enjoys most. \u201cOnce I start editing my music, I\u2019m able to treat it like it was made by somebody else,\u201d she tells me in Japanese, with O\u2019Rourke translating. \u201cBy editing and layering, I\u2019m able to distance myself from it. It\u2019s not really mine anymore; it\u2019s just material to work with. It\u2019s much more fulfilling to me that way.\u201d<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262428\" class=\"content_block paragraph embed triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\">\n    <iframe style=\"border-radius:12px\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/album\/14RvSBP5WU3yTTlL3W0sAH?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262429\" class=\"content_block paragraph embed triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\">\n    <iframe allow=\"autoplay *; encrypted-media *;\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"450\" style=\"width:100%;max-width:660px;overflow:hidden;background:transparent;\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.music.apple.com\/us\/album\/evil-does-not-exist\/1738123359\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262411\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i> had its beginnings in <i>Gift<\/i>, an 80-minute silent film featuring untrained actors and long, idyllic shots of rural Japan. A film festival in Ghent, Belgium commissioned Ishibashi for a new musical work and asked her to choose a director to provide visual accomp<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/anime-manga\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"6\" title=\"Anime || Manga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">anime<\/a>nt for her performance. She chose Hamaguchi, who was so awed by the power of his ad hoc cast\u2019s performances that he built it into a full feature.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            The plot of <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i> follows Takumi (Hitoshi Omika), an absent-minded naturalist and jack of all trades who lives with his daughter Hana in the mountain village of Mizubiki. Their quiet life is disrupted by a Tokyo business\u2019s aggressive pitch to build a glamping site nearby, a scheme that would have devastating effects on the surrounding environment. It\u2019s a fictionalization of a true story that\u2019s still developing in Eiko\u2019s area. <\/p>\n<p>            Hamaguchi\u2019s frustration and anger with the situation remains mostly bottled until the film\u2019s intense climax, a wordless sequence set to 12 minutes of Ishibashi\u2019s mixed electronic\/orchestral score. As the action falls, her string theme returns, and the camera points up to the night sky, resuming its slow, tracking journey through the woods.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262412\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"World Soundtrack Awards 2023 | Eiko Ishibashi - Drive My Car &amp; Evil Does Not Exist\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3rYL6NaP0lw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('262412');\n<\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262413\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            The Venice International Film Festival hosted the premiere of <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i> in early September 2023, a month before <i>Gift<\/i> had its own premiere at Film Fest Gent. Both films have slowly toured the world since, sometimes in tandem, with Ishibashi sitting in to perform <i>Gift<\/i>\u2019s live score. Today, her original soundtrack for the narrative feature arrives in album form. Weeks before its release, I spoke to Eiko from across the world. <\/p>\n<p>            <b><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262414\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <i>NOTE: Throughout our interview, Jim acted as our interpreter. When translating Eiko\u2019s answers to me, he mainly used the third person. We\u2019ve edited these translations into the first person for clarity\u2019s sake, and quoted Jim only in the instances where he made clear he was speaking as himself.<\/i><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262415\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>Growing up on your parents\u2019 favorite war films, did you ever feel like you were missing out on the kids\u2019 movies your friends were watching?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> Maybe as a child I wanted to see the animated films my friends were talking about. But I\u2019m grateful I was exposed to things my friends weren\u2019t being exposed to, like war movies and <i>The Shining<\/i>. It led me down a different path in life.<\/p>\n<p>            The animated films when I was a kid weren\u2019t as brainwashing as they are now; at that time, the brainwashing came from the Spielbergian kid-goes-on-an-adventure movies, but I didn\u2019t get to see those either. Instead, I was watching Jack Torrance and the Elephant Man.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Wow. Did you enjoy those movies at the time?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> [<i>Laughs<\/i>] When movies came out in Japan back then, it was very common for movie theaters to sell little pamphlets about them. My mother bought me the pamphlets for <i>The Elephant Man<\/i> and <i>Apocalypse Now<\/i>. I thought they were scary, so I hid them in the closet.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>What did you mean when you said anime was less brainwashing back then than it is now?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            [<i>Jim and Eiko discuss the question in Japanese.<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Jim O\u2019Rourke:<\/b> This is me talking now, but Eiko agrees: There\u2019s a concept in Japan called \u201cshiawaze\u201d that basically means \u201chappiness,\u201d but happiness through the act of giving up your individuality for the greater good. It\u2019s brainwashing in the sense that happiness is more important than anything, regardless of whether that happiness is a hollow, meaningless state or not. Every country has its own way of brainwashing the public to make them malleable, and in Japan, it\u2019s manifested as this very specific sort of infantilization. The government talks to people, [directly and] through art forms, as if they\u2019re children who have to be guided by the hand.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> When I was a kid, anime was much more tied to history, but now it\u2019s detached from that and almost a direct appeal to the audience\u2019s child brain.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262425\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left pull_quote\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"pull_quote\"><p>\u201cInstead of discussing the script, Hamaguchi and I were having email conversations about how fucked up things were in real life in Japan during COVID\u2026 I never saw the actual script.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262417\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>I know the broad strokes of you and Hamaguchi\u2019s journey from <i>Drive My Car<\/i> to <i>Gift<\/i> to <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i>, but I\u2019d love to get more emotional context for the turns you took on the way.<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> After <i>Drive My Car<\/i>, Hamaguchi\u2019s life got taken over with award shows and hundreds of interviews. None of this had ever happened to him before, and all of a sudden there were offers to do\u2026<\/p>\n<p>            <b>JO:<\/b> Maybe a Marvel movie [<i>laughs<\/i>]. I\u2019m not saying that happened, but it was that kind of situation.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> He was worried he\u2019d never get the opportunity to make something he wanted to make again. [In making <i>Gift<\/i>], he saw an opportunity to do something experimental before that world might possibly overtake his life.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>Did you get caught up in that whirlwind of success at all?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> It wasn\u2019t too much of an overload. While Hamaguchi was going to all the festivals, I was here in the mountains, making other things.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Has anyone approached you to score a Marvel movie yet?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> No offers for anything. <\/p>\n<p>            <b>JO:<\/b> That\u2019s one of the great myths: that if you do something everyone likes, you get offers.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262410\" class=\"content_block diptych triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper half_gutter_right gutter_btm\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" 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1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:eco\/EikoIshibashi_byShuheiKojima_0274_ycsmsf\/photos-by-shuhei-kojima.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 50vw\" alt=\"What Eiko Ishibashi gains in translation\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262419\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>How did your process change as the music went from center stage in <i>Gift<\/i> to a more conventional, accompanying role in <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i>?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> The film has an anger to it that the music didn\u2019t, so the shading and counterpoint it needed changed. I wrote the string theme to address that anger.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            Hamaguchi was really interested in this German documentary called <i>Dust<\/i>. He sent a DVD of it to us and said that was the approach he wanted to go for. The demos I made at that time, before he had shot anything, were of the electronic music that\u2019s in <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i>: piano, filters, and a very old Nord keyboard, the original Nord modular from the \u201990s.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>The first of those pieces, \u201cHana,\u201d comes right after the opening string theme. It\u2019s interesting to me that Hana\u2019s journey through the woods was inspired by those searching keyboard modulations, not the other way around. I was gonna ask if the song was what you imagined was going through Hana\u2019s head on that walk, but clearly not.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> Right. There was no Hana yet [<i>laughs<\/i>]. But no, I don\u2019t think the music had so much of an influence on the script. The biggest influence was a tape of the actual meeting of people coming to convince the people out here to let them make a glamping site. A meeting like the one in the film actually happened, and someone we know taped it and gave it to Hamaguchi. Once he heard that, he rushed back to Tokyo and started writing a script.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>How close to verbatim was the scene in the movie to that tape?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> Neither of us ever heard that cassette, so we don\u2019t know, but we knew about the situation. It\u2019s an ongoing thing: Before the bubble \u2014 the big economic boom in the \u201980s \u2014 this area was built up as a resort area, and a lot of well-off people built summer houses out here. But then the bubble burst, and all of that was abandoned.<\/p>\n<p>            It\u2019s an area filled with summer houses and resorts built in the \u201980s that are almost 90% empty. After years of it being reclaimed by farmers and becoming quiet, it\u2019s like a movie set for a movie that isn\u2019t being made.<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>JO:<\/b> It\u2019s like if a studio still had a lot for Westerns, but no one\u2019s making Westerns anymore.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> With COVID, which is very important to the movie, the Japanese government had all these plans to give people money for reconstruction, but a lot of businesses took advantage of these things and made a lot of bullshit ideas to get government money. Glamping is one of the things a lot of those companies did. They were taking advantage of people in the countryside, saying, \u201cIt\u2019ll be great for you,\u201d and it was just a bunch of bullshit.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262430\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left pull_quote\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"pull_quote\"><p>\u201cRelying on translation of creates a distance. But, of course, there are all the other elements \u2014 the image, the sound \u2014 that can be relied upon to get closer to what actually happened than you would by listening to the lines.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262421\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>It\u2019s not just electronic vs. strings \u2014 there are lots of stylistic jumps in the score: There\u2019s the ambient track \u201cFether\u201d; there\u2019s \u201cSmoke,\u201d which feels almost like \u201970s fusion. Did you and Hamaguchi have discussions about these pivots during the making of <i>Gift<\/i> and <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i><\/b>?<\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> Not at all. There was almost no discussion about what direction Hamaguchi wanted to go with the music, unlike with <i>Drive My Car<\/i>. With this film, it was almost like we were working on two separate train tracks simultaneously. He let me go with the music, but he was very specific about how he used it \u2014 where he placed it and how he edited it. He was treating the music like another character in the film, rather than something separate from the film that was commenting on it. <\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            I didn\u2019t know anything about the plot of the film before I watched it. Instead of discussing the script, Hamaguchi and I were having email conversations about how fucked up things were in real life in Japan during COVID, like, \u201cThis is bullshit.\u201d I never saw the actual script.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Beyond circumstance, how did you decide to create such a shifting, piecemeal score, rather than taking a more conventional, \u201csymphonic\u201d approach?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> Well it\u2019s not uncommon, when you\u2019re scoring a film, to be asked to make music in different genres. You go from making music <i>for<\/i> the film to making music that\u2019s <i>in<\/i> the film. I was relieved that with this one \u2014 even though it was made piecemeal \u2014 there was no requirement for that. It\u2019s all music that, in a way, is outside the film.  <\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            Hamaguchi and I talked a lot about how Godard treats music just as material, whether it\u2019s diegetic or outside the film. There was initially an agreement that the music would be treated that way \u2014 that it didn\u2019t necessarily have a non-diegetic role in the film; it could be treated in many different ways.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262422\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Drive My Car Trailer #1 (2021) | Movieclips Indie\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/EBKqkRGRLyA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('262422');\n<\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262423\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>Hamaguchi\u2019s films \u2014 <i>Drive My Car<\/i>, in particular \u2014 are full of long, fluid tracking shots, and your music mirrors them in a really interesting way. Is that intentional?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> In <i>Drive My Car<\/i>, the driver character is a very good driver. The funny thing is that the drummer I worked with, Tatsuhisa, is also a very good driver. I wanted to get the sense across of a steady, comfortable, reliable rhythm. The audience can\u2019t experience that comfortable driving, so I wanted to express that through the music.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>The opening and closing string themes of <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i>, which are nearly identical but occur in very different contexts, are also accompanied by long tracking shots of the sky through the trees \u2014 first in the day, then at night. When you recorded that theme, did you im<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">media<\/a>tely know it would fit the opening and closing moments of the film?<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> I\u2019d seen the first cut of the film by that time, and even though it was Hamaguchi who would eventually decide where it would go, I made the string theme for that image. Hamaguchi felt that as well.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262431\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left image\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/EikoIshibashi_byJimO_Rourke_3A_rsotaw\/photo-by-jim-o-rourke.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"What Eiko Ishibashi gains in translation\"><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>    <span class=\"caption\"><br \/>\n      Photo by Jim O\u2019Rourke.<br \/>\n    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n      \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content_block paragraph triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-262424\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>When I\u2019m watching a film in a language I don\u2019t understand, I end up wondering what details I missed by focusing on the subtitles. As a lover of foreign films \u2014 and as someone who\u2019s been so intimately involved in the production of films \u2014 how does having to read translations of the dialogue affect your moviegoing experience?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> Relying on translation of creates a distance. But, of course, there are all the other elements \u2014 the image, the sound \u2014 that can be relied upon to get closer to what actually happened than you would by listening to the lines. <\/p>\n<p>            <b>Before we go, are you willing to share your take on the ending of <i>Evil Does Not Exist<\/i>? I\u2019ll avoid giving The FADER\u2019s readership any spoilers.<\/b><\/p>\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div>\n<p>            <b>EI:<\/b> [<i>Laughs<\/i>] Hamaguchi has been asked a lot about that last scene, and I really like his answer: \u201cOnce you\u2019ve watched it three times, you\u2019ll understand.\u201d<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"author\">\n    <span><br \/>\n      By <span class=\"credit_name\">Raphael Helfand<\/span><br \/>\n  <\/span><\/div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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