{"id":640735,"date":"2024-10-06T19:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-10-06T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/aws-ceo-matt-garman-on-generative-ai-open-source-and-closing-services\/"},"modified":"2024-10-06T19:00:00","modified_gmt":"2024-10-06T16:00:00","slug":"aws-ceo-matt-garman-on-generative-ai-open-source-and-closing-services","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/aws-ceo-matt-garman-on-generative-ai-open-source-and-closing-services\/","title":{"rendered":"#AWS CEO Matt Garman on generative AI, open source, and closing services"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a287026cc0cd\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a287026cc0cd\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/aws-ceo-matt-garman-on-generative-ai-open-source-and-closing-services\/#Reemphasize_startups_and_fast_innovation\" >Reemphasize startups and fast innovation<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/aws-ceo-matt-garman-on-generative-ai-open-source-and-closing-services\/#Generative_AI_at_AWS\" >Generative AI at AWS<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/aws-ceo-matt-garman-on-generative-ai-open-source-and-closing-services\/#Q_an_AI-powered_chatbot\" >Q, an AI-powered chatbot<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/aws-ceo-matt-garman-on-generative-ai-open-source-and-closing-services\/#Shutting_down_services\" >Shutting down services<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/aws-ceo-matt-garman-on-generative-ai-open-source-and-closing-services\/#AWS_and_the_open_source_ecosystem\" >AWS and the open source ecosystem<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<div>\n<p id=\"speakable-summary\" class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It was quite a surprise when Adam Selipsky stepped down as the CEO of Amazon\u2019s AWS cloud computing unit. What was maybe just as much of a surprise was that Matt Garman succeeded him. Garman joined Amazon as an intern in 2005 and became a full-time employee in 2006, working on the early AWS products. Few people know the business better than Garman, whose last position before becoming CEO was as senior VP for AWS sales, marketing, and global services.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Garman told me in an interview last week that he hasn\u2019t made any massive changes to the organization yet. \u201cNot a ton has changed in the organization. The business is doing quite well, so there\u2019s no need to do a massive shift on anything that we\u2019re focused on,\u201d he said. He did, however, point out a few areas where he thinks the company needs to focus and where he sees opportunities for AWS.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-reemphasize-startups-and-fast-innovation\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Reemphasize_startups_and_fast_innovation\"><\/span>Reemphasize startups and fast innovation<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of those, somewhat surprisingly, is startups. \u201cI think as we\u2019ve evolved as an organization.\u00a0\u2026 Early on in the life of AWS, we focused a ton on how do we really <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>eal to developers and startups, and we got a lot of early traction there,\u201d he explained. \u201cAnd then we started looking at how do we appeal to larger enterprises, how do we appeal to governments, how do we appeal to regulated sectors all around the world? And I think one of the things that I\u2019ve just reemphasized \u2014 it\u2019s not really a change \u2014 but just also emphasize that we can\u2019t lose that focus on the startups and the developers. We have to do all of those things.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The other area he wants the team to focus on is keeping up with the maelstrom of change in the industry right now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI\u2019ve been really emphasizing with the team just how important it is for us to continue to not rest on the lead we have with regards to the set of services and capabilities and features and functions that we have today \u2014 and continue to lean forward and building that roadmap of real innovation,\u201d he said. \u201cI think the reason that customers use AWS today is because we have the best and broadest set of services. The reason that people lean into us today is because we continue to have, by far, the industry\u2019s best security and operational performance, and we help them innovate and move faster. And we\u2019ve got to keep pushing on that roadmap of things to do. It\u2019s not really a change, per se, but it is the thing that I\u2019ve probably emphasized the most: Just how important it is for us to maintain that level of innovation and maintain the speed with which we\u2019re delivering.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I asked him if he thought that maybe the company hadn\u2019t innovated fast enough in the past, he argued that he doesn\u2019t think so. \u201cI think the pace of innovation is only going to accelerate, and so it\u2019s just an emphasis that we have to also accelerate our pace of innovation, too. It\u2019s not that we\u2019re losing it; it\u2019s just that emphasis on how much we have to keep accelerating with the pace of <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/technology\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"4\" title=\"Technology\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">technology<\/a> that\u2019s out there.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-generative-ai-at-aws\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Generative_AI_at_AWS\"><\/span>Generative AI at AWS<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With the advent of generative AI and how fast technologies are changing now, AWS also has to be \u201cat the cutting edge of every single one of those,\u201d he said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Shortly after the launch of ChatGPT, many pundits questioned if AWS had been too slow to launch generative AI tools itself and had left an opening for its competitors like Google Cloud and Microsoft Azure. But Garman thinks that this was more perception than reality. He noted that AWS had long offered successful machine learning services like SageMaker, even before generative AI became a buzzword. He also noted that the company took a more deliberate approach to generative AI than maybe some of its competitors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe\u2019d been looking at generative AI before it became a widely accepted thing, but I will say that when ChatGPT came out, there was kind of a discovery of a new area, of ways that this technology could be applied. And I think everybody was excited and got energized by it, right?\u00a0\u2026 I think a bunch of people \u2014 our competitors \u2014 kind of raced to put chatbots on top of everything and show that they were in the lead of generative AI,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignright\">\n<blockquote><p>I think a bunch of people \u2014our competitors \u2014 kind of raced to put chatbots on top of everything and show that they were in the lead of generative AI.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Instead, Garman said, the AWS team wanted to take a step back and look at how its customers, whether startups or enterprises, could best integrate this technology into their applications and use their own differentiated data to do so. \u201cThey\u2019re going to want a platform that they can actually have the flexibility to go build on top of and really think about it as a building platform as opposed to an application that they\u2019re going to adapt. And so we took the time to go build that platform,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For AWS, that platform is Bedrock, where it offers access to a wide variety of open and proprietary models. Just doing that \u2014 and allowing users to chain different models together \u2014 was a bit controversial at the time, he said. \u201cBut for us, we thought that that\u2019s probably where the world goes, and now it\u2019s kind of a foregone conclusion that that\u2019s where the world goes,\u201d he said. He said he thinks that everyone will want customized models and bring their own data to them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bedrock, Garman said, is \u201cgrowing like a weed right now.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One problem around generative AI he still wants to solve, though, is price. \u201cA lot of that is doubling down on our custom silicon and some other model changes in order to make the inference that you\u2019re going to be building into your applications [something] much more affordable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AWS\u2019 next generation of its custom Trainium chips, which the company debuted at its re:Invent conference in late 2023, will launch toward the end of this year, Garman said. \u201cI\u2019m really excited that we can really turn that cost curve and start to deliver real value to customers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One area where AWS hasn\u2019t necessarily even tried to compete with some of the other technology giants is in building its own large language models. When I asked Garman about that, he noted that those are still something the company is \u201cvery focused on.\u201d He thinks it\u2019s important for AWS to have first-party models, all while continuing to lean into third-party models as well. But he also wants to make sure that AWS\u2019 own models can add unique value and differentiate, either through using its own data or \u201cthrough other areas where we see opportunity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Among those areas of opportunity is cost, but also agents, which everybody in the industry seems to be bullish about right now. \u201cHaving the models reliably, at a very high level of correctness, go out and actually call other APIs and go do things, that\u2019s an area where I think there\u2019s some innovation that can be done there,\u201d Garman said. Agents, he says, will open up a lot more utility from generative AI by automating processes on behalf of their users.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q-an-ai-powered-chatbot\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Q_an_AI-powered_chatbot\"><\/span>Q, an AI-powered chatbot<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At its last re:Invent conference, AWS also launched Q, its generative AI-powered assistant. Right now, there are essentially two flavors of this: Q Developer and Q Business.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Q Developer integrates with many of the most popular development environments and, among other things, offers code completion and tooling to modernize legacy Java apps. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe really think about Q Developer as a broader sense of really helping across the developer life cycle,\u201d Garman said. \u201cI think a lot of the early developer tools have been super focused on coding, and we think more about how do we help across everything that\u2019s painful and is laborious for developers to do?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At Amazon, the teams used Q Developer to update 30,000 Java apps, saving $260 million and 4,500 developer years in the process, Garman said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Q Business uses similar technologies under the hood, but its focus is on aggregating internal company data from a wide variety of sources and make that searchable through a ChatGPT-like question-and-answer service. The company is \u201cseeing some real traction there,\u201d Garman said.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-shutting-down-services\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Shutting_down_services\"><\/span>Shutting down services<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While Garman noted that not much has changed under his leadership, one thing that has happened recently at AWS is that the company announced plans to shut down some of its services. That\u2019s not something AWS has traditionally done all that often, but this summer, it announced plans to close services like its web-based Cloud9 IDE, its CodeCommit GitHub competitor, CloudSearch, and others.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s a little bit of a cleanup kind of a thing where we looked at a bunch of these services, where either, frankly, we\u2019ve launched a better service that people should move to, or we launched one that we just didn\u2019t get right,\u201d he explained. \u201cAnd, by the way, there\u2019s some of these that we just don\u2019t get right and their traction was pretty light. We looked at it and we said, \u2018You know what? The partner ecosystem actually has a better solution out there and we\u2019re just going to lean into that.\u2019 You can\u2019t invest in everything. You can\u2019t build everything. We don\u2019t like to do that. We take it seriously if companies are going to bet their business on us supporting things for the long term. And so we\u2019re very careful about that.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-aws-and-the-open-source-ecosystem\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"AWS_and_the_open_source_ecosystem\"><\/span>AWS and the open source ecosystem<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One relationship that has long been difficult for AWS \u2014 or at least has been perceived to be difficult \u2014 is with the open source ecosystem. That\u2019s changing, and just a few weeks ago, AWS brought its OpenSearch code to the Linux Foundation and the newly formed OpenSearch Foundation.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignleft\">\n<blockquote><p>We love open source. We lean into open source. I think we try to take advantage of the open source community <em>and <\/em>be a huge contributor back to the open source community.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI think our view is pretty straightforward,\u201d Garman said when I asked him how he thinks of the relationship between AWS and open source going forward. \u201cWe love open source. We lean into open source. I think we try to take advantage of the open source community <em>and <\/em>be a huge contributor back to the open source community. I think that\u2019s the whole point of open source \u2014 benefit from the community \u2014 and so that is the thing that we take seriously.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He noted that AWS has made key investments into open source and open sourced many of its own projects. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cMost of the friction has been from companies who originally started open source projects and then decided to kind of un-open source them, which I guess, is their right to do. But you know, that\u2019s not really the spirit of open source. And so whenever we see people do that, take Elastic as the example of that, and OpenSearch [AWS\u2019s ElasticSearch fork] has been quite popular.\u00a0\u2026 If there\u2019s Linux [Foundation] project or Apache project or anything that we can lean into, we want to lean into it; we contribute to them. I think we\u2019ve evolved and learned as an organization how to be a good steward in that community and hopefully that\u2019s been noticed by others.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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