{"id":643070,"date":"2024-10-31T20:06:45","date_gmt":"2024-10-31T17:06:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/mount-eeries-impermanent-eternities-2\/"},"modified":"2024-10-31T20:06:45","modified_gmt":"2024-10-31T17:06:45","slug":"mount-eeries-impermanent-eternities-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/mount-eeries-impermanent-eternities-2\/","title":{"rendered":"#Mount Eerie\u2019s impermanent eternities"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"content_blocks\">\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<style>\n<p> article.custom .custom-title, article.custom .custom-media .caption {\n   color: #75965f;\n }<\/p>\n<p> article.custom .custom-attribution, article.custom .custom-attribution a {\n   color: #75965f;\n }<\/p>\n<p> article.custom .content_block blockquote.pull_quote {\n   color: #75965f;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265269\" class=\"content_block flush title center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"custom-title\">\n      Mount Eerie\u2019s impermanent eternities\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-description\">\n      Phil Elverum discusses motherhood, forces of nature, trolling, and his new album, <i>Night Palace<\/i>.\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-attribution\">\n<div class=\"author\">\n    <span><br \/>\n      By <span class=\"credit_name\">Raphael Helfand<\/span><br \/>\n  <\/span><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"custom-media\">\n<div class=\" image center_align\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/unnamed_-_2024-10-31T115435.305_kyfuxh\/phil-elverum-mount-eerie-photo-by-a-target-_new-href-https-indigofree-com-indigo-free-a.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"Mount Eerie\u2019s impermanent eternities\"><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>    <span class=\"caption\"><br \/>\n      Phil Elverum (Mount Eerie). Photo by <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/indigofree.com\/\">Indigo Free<\/a>.<br \/>\n    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n      \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"custom_share_buttons_top \" style=\"\">\n<div id=\"new_socials_bottom\" class=\"new_socials_footer  \">\n<p>      <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" width=\"40\" height=\"40\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thefader.com\/assets\/FDR_SocialSharing_Facebook-747312c39722d47504a80f02500b8d4ad2e36acf922bad1c83799db1bc77f605.png\"><!-- <span>Share<\/span> --><\/p>\n<p>  <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefader.com%2F2024%2F10%2F31%2Fmount-eeries-impermanent-eternities%3Futm_source%3Df%26utm_medium%3Dtw%26utm_campaign%3Dshare&amp;text=Mount%20Eerie%E2%80%99s%20impermanent%20eternities&amp;via=thefader\" class=\"new_social_footer_button twitter new_social_share_button\" data-ga-event-category=\"Social Share\" data-ga-event-label=\"Twitter\" data-ga-on=\"click\" data-ga-event-action=\"cilck\"><\/p>\n<p>    <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" width=\"40\" height=\"40\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thefader.com\/assets\/FDR_SocialSharing_Twitter-8d78f695280aa3f8a4461702c68e9fcbfd6042af1600c62d49fdec4b735fb57a.png\"><!-- <span>Tweet<\/span> --><\/a><\/p>\n<p>        <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thefader.com\/assets\/logo-snapchat-5f1563935ac089d0cf1773f642ddbfb6cdb16e8c4ac14fec95a3c11b6f963389.svg\"><!-- <span>Snap<\/span> --><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265270,  #content_block-265270 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265270 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #ffffff;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265270\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <span style=\"color:#ffffff\" class=\"lead-text\">Phil Elverum likes nature:<\/span> looking at it, being in it, and using it as an ever-present component of the vast metaphors he conjures in the left-field folk rock he releases as Mount Eerie. Elverum has spent the vast majority of his life on the small islands between Washington and British Columbia. He grew up in Anacortes, a short drive over a bridge from the mainland. After a brief, uncomfortable move to New York in 2018, he returned to the Pacific Northwest with his young daughter, this time opting for true remoteness. He now lives on Orcas Island, where an hour-long ferry ride to his hometown is the fastest way back to the continent.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265289\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265271,  #content_block-265271 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265271 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #ffffff;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265271\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            Elverum\u2019s catalog \u2014 roughly 30 albums over the last 25-odd years as Mount Eerie, the Microphones, under his own name, and as one-third of D+ \u2014 is awash with natural imagery. (More than anything, he returns to wind, which he sees as the ultimate surrogate for impermanence.) But following the earth-shattering loss of his wife in 2016, he vowed to stop indulging in such poetics, opting instead for extreme realism. The first product of this new <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>roach was <i><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#75965f\" href=\"https:\/\/pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com\/album\/a-crow-looked-at-me\">A Crow Looked at Me<\/a><\/i>, one of the most devastating records ever made.<\/p>\n<p>            His new album, <i>Night Palace<\/i>, is in many ways a return to his earlier methods. Full of fire, lightning, rain, wind, and fog, the 26 tracks on this 81-minute double LP search for eternity in these familiar subjects, as well as in the quotidian efforts he spent his last three albums painstakingly documenting. On \u201cBroom of Wind,\u201d for instance, he\u2019s the sweeper, the broom, the object being swept up, and the wind all at once.<\/p>\n<p>            Elverum is more political than ever before on <i>Night Palace<\/i>, speaking in no uncertain terms about the evil at the root of the American project on tracks like \u201cNon-Metaphorical Decolonization\u201d and \u201cCo-Owner of Trees.\u201d He\u2019s also funnier: On \u201cI Spoke With a Fish,\u201d for instance, an unprecedented trap 808, a men\u2019s chorus, and other bizarre elements culminate in a lull in which the fish, voiced by Jeff Bridges via a <i>Big Lebowski<\/i> clip, responds \u201cI dig your style too, man.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>            In late September, I called Elverum at home to discuss <i>Night Palace<\/i>, the pitfalls of nature fetishization, and the urge to write a blink-182 song, even if you\u2019ve never heard one.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265272\" class=\"content_block paragraph embed triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"\">\n    <iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 350px; height: 470px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=4140456101\/size=large\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/tracklist=false\/transparent=true\/\" seamless><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com\/album\/night-palace\">Night Palace by Mount Eerie<\/a><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265290\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<div class=\"\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px; margin-top: 20px; text-align: left;\">\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265273,  #content_block-265273 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265273 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #ffffff;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265273\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>\n            <b>The FADER: You wrote in your bio for <i>Night Palace<\/i> that this album is about motherhood \u2014 how expanding \u201cinto the space of both parents\u201d since your wife\u2019s passing has reopened \u201cthe connection between the mundane and the infinite.\u201d That\u2019s one of the central tasks of great art, and this album attacks it in a different way than your past few projects, returning to the more metaphorical language you used in your earlier work in lieu of the realism of records like <i>A Crow Looked at Me<\/i>. Would you characterize it that way?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            <b>Phil Elverum:<\/b> <i>A Crow Looked at Me<\/i> and <i><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#75965f\" href=\"https:\/\/pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com\/album\/now-only\">Now Only<\/a><\/i>, and to some extent <i><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#75965f\" href=\"https:\/\/pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com\/album\/microphones-in-2020\">Microphones in 2020<\/a><\/i>, were part of a reactive writing phase where I was trying to not indulge too much in the poetic and tell it like it was. That\u2019s what I\u2019ve said, at least, but there was still a lot of mystery and metaphor and ambiguity in that writing. Even when I was like, \u201cThis is literal; this doesn\u2019t mean anything,\u201d it was with a wink and a nod: On <i>A Crow Looked at Me<\/i>, I\u2019m talking about throwing away a toothbrush, and of course that signifies more than just the toothbrush. Everything is resonant with meaning, but on [<i>Night Palace<\/i>], there\u2019s more of an acceptance of mysticism \u2014 the great mystery of some non-human world.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265278\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left image\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_studio_credit_self_timer_1_1_h7rzuf\/photo-by-phil-elverum.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"Mount Eerie\u2019s impermanent eternities\"><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>    <span class=\"caption\"><br \/>\n      Photo by Phil Elverum.<br \/>\n    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n      \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265274,  #content_block-265274 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265274 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #75965f;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265274\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left pull_quote\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"pull_quote\"><p>\u201cImpermanence is the one permanent thing.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265275,  #content_block-265275 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265275 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #ffffff;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265275\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>The opener, \u201cNight Palace,\u201d does a great job establishing the mundanity\u2013infinity connection.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            It summarizes a moment of seeing lightning in the distance but not being in the storm. It\u2019s almost like seeing into the underworld; a portal opens to another dimension. But I was washing dishes at the time and had just put the kid to bed, and these things coexist. That\u2019s what this album is about: washing dishes in the night after putting the kid to bed and looking out the window at the world and burning with internal lightning, with magic and fire.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Undergirding the whole song is a beautiful droning tone that sounds a bit like the <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#75965f\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uYMpMcmpfkI&amp;ab_channel=CeBitsMobile\">THX Deep Note<\/a> with a bunch of distortion on it. How did you get that sound?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I was so happy with that. I have an air organ, which is kind of like an accordion reed with a motor in it. You can find one at a thrift store, which is where I got mine a long time ago. I put two microphones on it, because it doesn\u2019t have an output, and ran those microphones through extreme distortion. It was distorting the whole ambience of the room, the fan of the organ, everything. It was like being in a car wash. I started playing and whistling along with it, but I couldn\u2019t hear my whistling because I was wearing headphones, and it was making this clashy distortion, like the notes were fighting with each other and the distortion in the air of the room. It was all accidental chaos.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265276\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left image\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_220,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 220w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_300,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 300w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 400w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 600w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_750,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 750w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_840,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 840w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_960,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 960w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1260,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 1260w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_1800,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 1800w,https:\/\/thefader-res.cloudinary.com\/private_images\/w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best\/2024_MountEerie_flowers_credit-Indigo-Free_b911kc\/photo-by-indigo-free.jpg 2400w,\" sizes=\"100vw\" alt=\"Mount Eerie\u2019s impermanent eternities\"><span class=\"img_caption\"><\/p>\n<p>    <span class=\"caption\"><br \/>\n      Photo by Indigo Free.<br \/>\n    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n      \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265279,  #content_block-265279 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265279 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #75965f;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265279\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left pull_quote\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"pull_quote\"><p>\u201cI always feel like a new guy when I come back from a bonfire day.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265277,  #content_block-265277 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265277 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #ffffff;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265277\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>You describe making the new album as a back-to-nature experience. You\u2019ve also <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#75965f\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thebeliever.net\/an-interview-with-phil-elverum\/\">expressed an aversion to nature fetishization<\/a> in the past. I don\u2019t think of this album as fetishistic, but are you less self-conscious about that sort of thing now?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I spent a lot of years with some prickliness about this idea of nature. Admittedly, I\u2019ve always written songs where I\u2019m [singing about] wind and fog, and blah, blah, blah, mountain, trees. But in my mind, I was always using them as metaphors to say other things, so I would get annoyed by how frequently people would hear them only as surface-level pretty pictures rather than the more ambiguous ideas underneath.<\/p>\n<p>            I remember having a moment of acceptance, like, \u201cWho cares?\u201d Everyone\u2019s gonna hear it in their own convoluted way, no matter what I do, so I\u2019m just gonna embrace the fact that I\u2019m from this place and this is my vocabulary. There\u2019s always the danger of being swept into escapism by romantic imagery when we write about the places we live, but I realized there\u2019s a tradition of writers doing it well and not being so hung up on if people get it right or wrong.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265282,  #content_block-265282 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265282 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #ffffff;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265282\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>There are other songs on <i>Night Palace<\/i> that are quite literal, the most explicit being \u201cNon-Metaphorical Decolonization.\u201d What inspired you to write something so overtly political in the middle of this mystical album?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            It\u2019s an undercurrent of what I\u2019ve always felt, and I realized I hadn\u2019t been obvious enough about my political views [in the past]. I think this American project we\u2019re living in is fucked up and damaging and has a gnarly history that\u2019s ignored by most people, even my peers. That motivated me to be more overt about it, but not in a didactic or preachy way. I tried to find some eternity in it.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>You have an interesting relationship with irony and have indulged in some light trolling at times. Do you think being a parent has made you more earnest about this stuff?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            Probably less earnest. I feel like this album is my funniest. There are lots of jokes, and I got looser with it. That\u2019s always been an element of me, but when I was younger, I felt an urge to separate my humorous work from my serious music work. Now, I\u2019m like, \u201cWho cares?\u201d We should be honest about the fact that we all have all of these aspects inside ourselves.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>I got a kick out of the <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#75965f\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stereogum.com\/2254084\/mount-eeries-phil-elverum-trolls-local-newspaper-with-ridiculous-interview-answers\/news\/\">email interview you did with a local paper in Ojai earlier this year<\/a> where you started telling increasingly ridiculous lies as you realized the writer didn\u2019t know who you were, and they just published them verbatim.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I didn\u2019t write those answers. I have to credit my friend <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#75965f\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jasonandersonmusic.net\/\">Jason Anderson<\/a>; he\u2019s been doing that for me and other friends since like 2005. He would make fake Wikipedia pages for people, stuff like that. Now we\u2019re living in a time of like actual misinformation, but back then, it was a funny way to play with the internet by creating an alternate version of me that would sometimes appear in interviews talking about bodybuilding and guns and never saying \u201cjust kidding.\u201d Now it\u2019s scarier, but fortunately he adjusted the interview to be mostly about beekeeping.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265280\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Non-Metaphorical Decolonization  by Mount Eerie (official video)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zJSpnzDfG6k?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('265280');\n<\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265281,  #content_block-265281 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265281 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #75965f;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265281\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left pull_quote\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"pull_quote\"><p>\u201cIt was all accidental chaos.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265283\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left video\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"video_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top: 56.25%;\">\n<p>    <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Mount Eerie - Huge Fire\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KpyhHs32SpY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n \/\/trackYouTubeVideo('265283');\n<\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265284,  #content_block-265284 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265284 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #75965f;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265284\" class=\"content_block breaker triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left pull_quote\">\n<div class=\"media_wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"pull_quote\"><p>\u201cThat\u2019s what this album is about: washing dishes in the night after putting the kid to bed and looking out the window at the world and burning with internal lightning, with magic and fire.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n<p> #content_block-265285,  #content_block-265285 blockquote.pull_quote, #content_block-265285 .img_caption .caption {\n   color: #ffffff;\n }\n<\/style>\n<div id=\"content_block-265285\" class=\"content_block paragraph text triple_gutter_right triple_gutter_left center_align\">\n<div class=\"content_inner_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"paragraph_wrapper center_align\">\n<p>            <b>\u201cHuge Fire\u201d is full of forces of nature \u2014 rain, wind, fire (of course), and others. Tell me about your relationship with fire, both as a destructive force and an essential part of human life.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            When I was making this record, I was alternating periods of writing and recording with periods of doing [controlled burns]. Where I live, a lot of the forest is overgrown with small, dead trees that would be really bad in a forest fire, so I\u2019ve been doing the work of cutting them down during rainy seasons and making burn piles and tending to these long, huge bonfires for days on end. Fire is a beautiful and scary metaphor for my favorite subject, impermanence: I\u2019m not just throwing old trees into the fire; I\u2019m throwing aspects of myself in, too. It\u2019s a renewing, cleansing force. I always feel like a new guy when I come back from a bonfire day.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>The song ends with the line \u201cThree days of heavy rain and there\u2019s still coals.\u201d It\u2019s as if you\u2019re pitting fire against water, and water is the lesser of the two.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            Maybe I was also trying to say it never truly goes out. Maybe it\u2019s a metaphor for the eternal glow.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>The eternity of nature as opposed to the impermanence of human life?<\/b> <\/p>\n<p>            I haven\u2019t thought about how those two things relate. I\u2019m not making any claims that fire itself is permanent. Impermanence is the one permanent thing. I\u2019m loving these philosophical questions, by the way. I made an album of pop-punk songs, and we\u2019re going deep on philosophy.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>You think of these as pop-punk songs?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            Some of them. I\u2019m trying to have the songs be enjoyable and joyful to listen to. I\u2019m trying to explore interesting and complex ambiguities and mysterious terrain but make it sound like blink-182.<\/p>\n<p>            <b>Which ones do you think sound like blink-182?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>            I guess none. I don\u2019t know what blink-182 sounds like very much.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"author\">\n    <span><br \/>\n      By <span class=\"credit_name\">Raphael Helfand<\/span><br \/>\n  <\/span><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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