{"id":651032,"date":"2025-01-27T04:35:13","date_gmt":"2025-01-27T01:35:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/deepseek-gets-silicon-valley-talking\/"},"modified":"2025-01-27T04:35:13","modified_gmt":"2025-01-27T01:35:13","slug":"deepseek-gets-silicon-valley-talking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/deepseek-gets-silicon-valley-talking\/","title":{"rendered":"#DeepSeek gets Silicon Valley talking"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p id=\"speakable-summary\" class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since Chinese AI company DeepSeek released an open version of its reasoning model R1 at the beginning of this week, many in the tech industry have been making grand pronouncements about what the company achieved, and what it means for the state of AI.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, for example, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/pmarca\/status\/1882719769851474108\">posted<\/a> that DeepSeek is \u201cone of the most amazing and impressive breakthroughs I\u2019ve ever seen.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">R1 seemingly matches or beats OpenAI\u2019s o1 model on certain AI benchmarks. And the company claims one of its models <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/tech\/ai\/china-ai-deepseek-chatbot-6ac4ad33?st=wNw4tu&amp;reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink\">only cost $5.6 million<\/a> to train, compared to the hundreds of millions of dollars that leading American companies pay to train theirs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It also seems to have achieved that in the face of U.S. sanctions that prohibit the sale of advanced chips to Chinese companies. <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyreview.com\/2025\/01\/24\/1110526\/china-deepseek-top-ai-despite-sanctions\/\">The MIT Technology Review writes<\/a> that the company\u2019s success illustrates how sanctions are \u201cdriving startups like DeepSeek to innovate in ways that prioritize efficiency, resource-pooling, and collaboration.\u201d (On the other hand, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/tech\/ai\/china-ai-deepseek-chatbot-6ac4ad33?st=wNw4tu&amp;reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink\">the Wall Street Journal reports<\/a> that DeepSeek\u2019s Liang Wenfeng recently told China\u2019s premier that American export restrictions still pose a bottleneck.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Curai CEO Neal Khosla <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/nealkhosla\/status\/1882859736737194183\">offered a simpler explanation<\/a>, claiming that the company is a \u201cccp state psyop\u201d that\u2019s \u201cfaking the cost was low to justify setting price low and hoping everyone switches to it [to] damage AI competitiveness in the us.\u201d (A Community Note has been attached to his post pointing out that Khosla offers no evidence for this, and that his father Vinod is an OpenAI investor.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Meanwhile, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Schuldensuehner\/status\/1882908672952582477\/photo\/1\">journalist Holger Zschaepitz suggested<\/a> DeepSeek \u201ccould represent the biggest threat to US equity markets\u201d \u2014 if a Chinese company can build a cutting-edge model at low cost, without access to advanced chips, it would call into question \u201cthe utility of the hundreds of billions worth of capex being poured into this industry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In response, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/garrytan\/status\/1883037020207153580\">Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan argued<\/a> DeepSeek\u2019s success would actually be good for its American competitors. \u201cIf training models get cheaper faster and easier,\u201d he wrote on X, \u201cthe demand for inference (actual real world use of AI) will grow and accelerate even faster, which assures the supply of compute will be used.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And Meta\u2019s Chief AI Scientist Yann LeCun <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/yann-lecun_to-people-who-see-the-performance-of-deepseek-activity-7288591087751884800-I3sN\/\">argued against<\/a> looking at DeepSeek\u2019s announcement through the lens of China versus the United States. Instead, he suggested the real lesson is that \u201copen source models are surpassing proprietary ones.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cDeepSeek has profited from open research and open source (e.g. PyTorch and Llama from Meta),\u201d LeCun wrote on LinkedIn this week. \u201cThey came up with new ideas and built them on top of other people\u2019s work. Because their work is published and open source, everyone can profit from it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">All of the debate seems to be driving consumers to try the product. As of Sunday afternoon, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/cdn.deepseek.com\/download-app\/index.html\">DeepSeek\u2019s AI assistant<\/a> is the top free <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a> in the Apple App Store, just ahead of ChatGPT.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">If you liked the article, do not forget to share it with your friends. 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