{"id":65709,"date":"2020-09-12T23:48:00","date_gmt":"2020-09-12T20:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/its-close-inside-the-daniel-jones-vs-sam-darnold-debate\/"},"modified":"2020-09-12T23:48:00","modified_gmt":"2020-09-12T20:48:00","slug":"its-close-inside-the-daniel-jones-vs-sam-darnold-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/its-close-inside-the-daniel-jones-vs-sam-darnold-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"#\u2018It\u2019s close\u2019: Inside the Daniel Jones vs. Sam Darnold debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a23e6adf1e76\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a23e6adf1e76\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/its-close-inside-the-daniel-jones-vs-sam-darnold-debate\/#Vote_for_Jones\" >Vote for Jones!<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/its-close-inside-the-daniel-jones-vs-sam-darnold-debate\/#Vote_for_Darnold\" >Vote for Darnold!<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/its-close-inside-the-daniel-jones-vs-sam-darnold-debate\/#The_future\" >The future<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#\u2018It\u2019s close\u2019: Inside the Daniel Jones vs. Sam Darnold debate<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n                        He was selected near the top of the NFL draft and thrust into a floundering franchise in New York.<\/p>\n<p>He already has endured a coaching change, learned a new offense and mixed moments of brilliance with head-scratching turnovers.<\/p>\n<p>He says all the right things when controversy swirls, factors heavily into all team personnel decisions and provides fans a reason to hope.<\/p>\n<p>He is Jets quarterback Sam Darnold. He is Giants quarterback Daniel Jones. He is both.<\/p>\n<p>But what if you could have only one of the two 23-year-olds?<\/p>\n<p>The Post asked a mix of scouts and NFL analysts: If you had to invest in Darnold or Jones over the long term, who would you choose and why? Talent, playmaking ability of teammates and organizational stability became the talking points in a debate that could be as close as any this fall \u2014 and could continue to rage in this city for the next decade.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTheir career trajectories are comparable,\u201d an AFC scout said. \u201cIt\u2019s close.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Vote_for_Jones\"><\/span>Vote for Jones!<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Jones \u2014 not Dan Marino, Peyton Manning nor anyone else \u2014 is the only rookie in NFL history with three <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">game<\/a>s of four or more passing touchdowns and no interceptions.<\/p>\n<p>And he did it without Saquon Barkley, Sterling Shepard and Evan Engram playing one snap together all season. Add in Darius Slayton and Golden Tate to give Jones the unanimously preferred supporting cast.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTaking what I saw initially and knowing the market is volatile and there are times it\u2019s going to dip, the Daniel Jones stock is going to rise,\u201d said Nate Burleson, co-host of NFL Network\u2019s \u201cGood Morning Football.\u201d \u201cI\u2019m not calling it Disney just yet. In due time, maybe it can be.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_16286920\"><img alt=\"Sam Darnold (l) and Daniel Jones\" data- data- height=\"441\" width=\"662\"><\/img><figcaption><span>Sam Darnold (l) and Daniel Jones<\/span><span>Charles Wenzelberg\/New York Post<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Burleson is the most bullish analyst on Jones \u2014 and it\u2019s not just because of his arm or his legs. The way in which Jones handled backing up and then replacing legend Eli Manning was a selling point \u2014 and Burleson suspects it won\u2019t be long before Jones has made his own name rather than being looked at as \u201cDiet Eli.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m going to invest in him because I\u2019ve seen him in a front of a microphone. I\u2019ve seen him in the huddle, I\u2019ve seen him pick himself up off the ground,\u201d Burleson said. \u201cHe\u2019s handled it all with ease. If he can handle the market as well as he can handle the blitz, I know he is going to be perfectly fine.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Giants revealed their opinion when they bypassed Darnold in the 2018 draft to select Barkley. One year later, they selected Jones.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDarnold was more pro-ready coming out of college,\u201d the AFC scout said, \u201cbut Daniel has more athletic tools. With the way the game is going, I\u2019m always going to side with that, because he can get himself out of trouble better.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPro Football Talk Live\u201d co-host Chris Simms ranked Jones and Darnold as the No. 22 and No. 23 quarterbacks, respectively, for 2020. He\u2019d rather build a long-term Franken-quarterback with Jones\u2019 deep throws and mobility and Darnold\u2019s pocket presence. But \u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDaniel Jones\u2019 ceiling is a little higher,\u201d Simms said. \u201cWhen I think about decision-making, overall arm and the ability to run, those are three elite traits Daniel has.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jones\u2019 main flaw as a rookie was a continuation from Duke: an NFL-high 18 fumbles (11 lost). Consensus opinion is fumbles are correctable with coaching \u2014 especially when the problem is patting (instead of gripping) the ball with the off-hand \u2014 and NFL history is filled with examples of quarterbacks whose biggest steps forward came in Year 2.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNow when he steps on the field, the game has slowed down quite a bit,\u201d Burleson said. \u201cInstead of doing what rookies do \u2014 their helmet is bouncing up and down or side-to-side, like crossing a busy New York street \u2014 it\u2019s like sitting in your backyard enjoying a beautiful sunset. You are looking around slowly and you know by the defense where you are going with the ball.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Vote_for_Darnold\"><\/span>Vote for Darnold!<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Considering Dan Orlovsky prefers Darnold to every quarterback to enter the league since 2018 \u2014 even, shockingly, reigning MVP Lamar Jackson, as well as three No. 1-overall picks (Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray and Joe Burrow) \u2014 Jones never stood a shot here.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe\u2019s a better athlete, he\u2019s a more efficient thrower, he\u2019s better at making plays that you can\u2019t explain,\u201d said Orlovsky, co-host of ESPN\u2019s \u201cNFL Live.\u201d \u201cThere\u2019s just a significant level more, talent-wise.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There are two schools of thoughts on drafting in the top 10: pick for need or because the player is too good to pass up. Blake Beddingfield, former director of college scouting for the Titans (1999-2017), says the Jets checked both boxes with Darnold.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe has more big-play potential and a toughness factor,\u201d Beddingfield said. \u201cWhen I look at a franchise quarterback, I look at someone who really raises the level of play around him. Darnold has a little more of that ability.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Darnold has an extra season to scrutinize inconsistencies on his r\u00e9sum\u00e9. Six missed games raise questions about durability, and a two-game stretch with nine interceptions last season renewed pre-draft critiques of too many high-risk throws.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe one area where he has a leg up is Darnold is like [boxer] Manny Pacquiao in the pocket,\u201d Simms said. \u201cHe can move his feet and throw the football from weird, awkward angles. I think it\u2019s one of the best things he\u2019s got about his game.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Patrick Mahomes and Deshuan Watson just received mega-extensions after their third seasons. That timeline on Darnold arrives for Jets <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/general\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"3\" title=\"General\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">general<\/a> manager Joe Douglas next offseason.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBetween the first-year foot injury and second-year mono, you get one year out of that,\u201d Simms said. \u201cThe pressure is off the quarterback when the season is lost. I want to see how Darnold plays when the Jets are 3-3 and it\u2019s a big football game.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Even those who prefer Darnold worry the Jets haven\u2019t done enough to help him succeed.<\/p>\n<p>Poor offensive lines and a dearth of offensive weapons ruined other young quarterbacks\u2019 confidence. Douglas brought in four new starting linemen, but it\u2019s possible none of the Jets\u2019 running backs, wide receivers or tight ends would start over their Giants\u2019 counterparts.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJoe Douglas has the ability to get this thing right, because of the people he learned under and his moves so far,\u201d Orlovsky said, singling out drafting Mekhi Becton [the fourth offensive tackle selected] over his top-graded receiver. \u201cThe fact he realized that [Becton] is the long-term, boring play that leads to big results is a really good sign. It\u2019s going to take time, but I\u2019d h<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>ily invest in Sam.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"The_future\"><\/span>The future<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Giants general manager Dave Gettleman and Jets coach Adam Gase both are on the hot seat.<\/p>\n<p>Fans will want people held accountable if years of losing continues, but a lack of patience is \u201ca recipe for disaster,\u201d according to Beddingfield.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cVery few Super Bowl quarterbacks had changes throughout their career,\u201d Beddingfield said. \u201cWhen there is a new standard in the building that\u2019s different from the one that drafted you, that\u2019s tough to overcome initially. You want to continue to progress your game, not constantly make a young player learn what he should\u2019ve learned as a rookie.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Since 1987, the Jets and Giants have both made the playoffs in the same year three times, most recently in 2006. If choosing between Darnold and Jones is splitting hairs, the agreement lies in predicting fewer gray-inducing moments than the past produced.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve seen enough already to say you can build a consistent contender with both guys as long as you put the right pieces in place around them and have some stability with the coaches,\u201d Simms said. \u201cIt\u2019s impossible to know, but when I look purely at the player and then the human being behind the player, I would say they are both still here years from now.\u201d\n            <\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>if you want to <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">watch Movies<\/a> or Tv Shows go to <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/dizi.buradabiliyorum.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dizi.BuradaBiliyorum.Com<\/a> <\/span> for forums sites go to <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/forum.buradabiliyorum.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Forum.BuradaBiliyorum.Com<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>If you want to read more Sports <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/news\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"2\" title=\"News\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">News<\/a> articles, you can visit our <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/general\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">General category.<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: black;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2020\/09\/12\/its-close-giants-daniel-jones-vs-jets-sam-darnold-debate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Source<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;#\u2018It\u2019s close\u2019: Inside the Daniel Jones vs. Sam Darnold debate&#8221; He was selected near the top of the NFL draft and thrust into a floundering franchise in New York. 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