{"id":672815,"date":"2025-05-31T19:11:26","date_gmt":"2025-05-31T16:11:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/bono-schools-joe-rogan-over-elon-musk-support-doge-cuts-pure-evil\/"},"modified":"2025-05-31T19:11:26","modified_gmt":"2025-05-31T16:11:26","slug":"bono-schools-joe-rogan-over-elon-musk-support-doge-cuts-pure-evil","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/bono-schools-joe-rogan-over-elon-musk-support-doge-cuts-pure-evil\/","title":{"rendered":"Bono Schools Joe Rogan Over Elon Musk Support: DOGE Cuts \u201cPure Evil\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"
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\n\tU2 frontman schooled podcaster Joe Rogan on his frequent support and defense of Elon Musk. <\/p>\n

\n\tThe singer discussed the impact of the Trump administration and Musk\u2019s Department of Government Efficiency\u2019s proposed cuts to the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) \u2014 which is considered the largest source of international aid to more than 120 countries via delivering food programs, clean water and infectious disease medical assistance. The organization\u2019s efforts are often credited for saving lives at the cost of pennies on the dollar.<\/p>\n

\n\tBono has been undertaking humanitarian trip<\/a>s to Africa and other nations since the early 1980s and has a history of working with USAID. He cited a study<\/a> that estimated the DOGE cuts to the department will result in more than 300,000 deaths worldwide<\/a> \u2014 more than 200,000 of them children suffering from malnutrition, malaria and pneumonia. The cuts, he claimed, have already resulted in food, water and medical aide being stranded due to mass layoffs.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cThere\u2019s food rotting in boats and warehouses,\u201d Bono said (video clip below). \u201cThere is 50,000 tons of food. The people who knew the codes \u2014 who were responsible for distributing that aid \u2014 were fired. That\u2019s not America, is it?\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tBono said he understands why people would want to downsize big government but says steep cuts to the popular charity program already have disastrous consequences.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cTo destroy, to vandalize, it felt like with glee, that these life support systems were being pulled out of the walls,\u201d Bono says, and cited a story in Christianity Today<\/em><\/a>: \u201c[One aide worker said], \u2018We don\u2019t have the funds, we have to choose which child to pull off the IVs.\u2019 It just seems to me, I don\u2019t know if \u2018evil\u2019 is too strong a word, but what we know about pure evil is that it rejoices in the deaths, in the squandering of human life \u2014 particularly children. It actually rejoices in it. And whether it\u2019s incompetence, whether it\u2019s unintended consequences, it\u2019s not too late for people.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tBono added that he has even attempted to address the issue with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who the singer says is \u201cconvinced people aren\u2019t dying yet.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tRogan pushed back, calling USAID a \u201cmoney-laundering operation\u201d that has lost even a \u201ctrillion\u201d with \u201cno oversight, no receipts.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tThere has indeed been credible accusations of waste and fraud within the organization (some reading here<\/a> and here<\/a>). But such instances are estimated to be a tiny fraction of the organization\u2019s $40 billion budget. Nonetheless, the Trump administration put most USAID workers on leave in February amid Musk declaring it a \u201ccriminal organization\u201d and that it was \u201ctime to die.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tThat said, Rogan added, \u201cBut also, we help the world and when you\u2019re talking about making wells for people in the Congo to get fresh water, when you\u2019re talking about food and medicine to places that don\u2019t have access, no way that should have been cut out. And that should have been clear before they make these radical cuts. There\u2019s got to be a way to keep aide and not have fraud.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tRogan added, \u201cThe ironic thing is, even though Elon Musk has proposed all these things and the DOGE committee has proposed all these things, they\u2019ve made no cuts in terms of the budget. They\u2019ve cut nothing.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tMusk posted a clip of Bono and fired back on X: \u201cHe\u2019s such a liar\/idiot. Zero people have died!\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tMusk and Rubio\u2019s insistence that no one has yet died could be referring to the fact the 300,000 deaths report is a prediction of the number of deaths rather than saying those deaths have already occurred. <\/p>\n

\n\tIn the Christianity Today<\/em> story that Bono cited, workers on the ground said there have already been cuts to funding and suggested children would begin dying soon. One aide worker said, \u201cI do think we can expect to see increased mortality rates, increased infection, and increased despair if things aren\u2019t corrected.\u201d Also, Bono\u2019s quote cited about pulling children off IVs was indeed a prediction rather than a current statement of fact. But according to Brooke Nichols \u2014 the mathematician and professor of infectious diseases at Boston University who created the prediction model \u2014 tens of thousands likely have already died.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cBecause I\u2019ve been doing HIV [research] for so long, I just assumed that would be where the biggest impact would occur,\u201d Nichols told The Times<\/em> UK<\/a>. \u201cBut I was really shocked by the child deaths from diarrhea, pneumonia and malnutrition. Tens of thousands of children have died because we\u2019ve pulled out our funding from diarrhea, pneumonia and food programs.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tThe bottom line seems to be: Humanitarian workers say the Trump administration\u2019s actions are already having a dire impact on the ground, but there is some debate over how many deaths, if any, have already occurred. But all experts seem to agree the proposed cuts (which reportedly will reduce USAID spending by 80 percent) will be devastating and cause hundreds of thousands of deaths if fully implemented and\/or more time passes without the administration stepping up. <\/p>\n

\n\tPreviously, Bill Gates similarly chastised Musk for the cuts to The Financial Times<\/em>, saying, \u201cThe picture of the world\u2019s richest man killing the world\u2019s poorest children is not a pretty one.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tThe news<\/a> comes amid Musk stepping down from his official White House role and a New York Times<\/em> report <\/a>that claimed the billionaire took copious amounts of ketamine and other drugs during his time running DOGE. Musk has called<\/a> the report \u201cbs\u201d and said the number of meetings and photographs he was in would make such use impossible.<\/p>\n

\n\tDuring the podcast, Bono further warned against the Trump administration\u2019s isolationist impulses in general<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cI just want to remind Americans of the size of their country, and I\u2019m not talking about the geography,\u201d Bono said. \u201cThe size of the idea, it\u2019s just an extraordinary thing. It\u2019s an idea big enough to fit the whole world, and when it becomes an island rather than a continent \u2026 when it shrinks, America seems to stop being America.\u201d <\/p>\n

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NEW: Joe Rogan sets the record straight after Bono claimed 300,000 people have died because of DOGE.<\/p>\n

\u201c[USAID] was a money laundering operation\u2026 there’s no oversight, no receipts. There is a lot of fraud, a lot of money laundering.\u201dpic.twitter.com\/KX2iHjeoHA<\/a><\/p>\n

\u2014 Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) May 31, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n