{"id":7692,"date":"2020-06-14T00:39:00","date_gmt":"2020-06-13T21:39:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/mets-yankees-both-got-the-most-out-of-these-10-stars\/"},"modified":"2020-06-14T00:39:00","modified_gmt":"2020-06-13T21:39:00","slug":"mets-yankees-both-got-the-most-out-of-these-10-stars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/mets-yankees-both-got-the-most-out-of-these-10-stars\/","title":{"rendered":"#Mets, Yankees both got the most out of these 10 stars"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a40dcc6c2963\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a40dcc6c2963\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/mets-yankees-both-got-the-most-out-of-these-10-stars\/#Vacs_Whacks\" >Vac\u2019s Whacks<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/mets-yankees-both-got-the-most-out-of-these-10-stars\/#Whack_Back_at_Vac\" >Whack Back at Vac<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#Mets, Yankees both got the most out of these 10 stars<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n                        Claudell Washington died this week at age 65, and his passing inspired me to wonder aloud on <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/social-mediaa\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"1\" title=\"Social Media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a> where he might rank on the list of players who spent time in their career with both the Yankees and the Mets. Washington hit .277 over stretches of four years with the Yankees and .275 his one year as a Met.<\/p>\n<p>What followed was a remarkable bit of instantaneous crowd-sourcing, some of it fun (\u201cRoy Staiger!\u201d cried more than one respondent. \u201cKarim Garcia! Marv Throneberry!\u201d) some really fun (\u201cBill Sudakis! Armando Benitez! Alvaro Espinoza!\u201d but a lot of folks took this very seriously because \u2026 well, it is serious.<\/p>\n<p>As such, an attempt at expanding and adjusting the top-five I did on Twitter to the top 10. As always, your red pen is welcome on this:<\/p>\n<p><strong>1. David Cone:<\/strong> This is the one that is a no-brainer. Cone won 20 <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/game\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"7\" title=\"Game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">game<\/a>s for both teams (1988 for the Mets, 1998 for the Yankees), he has a 3.13 ERA as a Met and a 3.91 ERA as a Yankee, and a WAR of 19.4 for the Mets, 20.3 for the Yankees. The spirit of this list isn\u2019t just to have famous names who played for both, but guys who performed best for both. Cone stands alone using those specs.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. Curtis Granderson:<\/strong> Granderson\u2019s four years for the Yankees included two 40-homer outbursts, one top-five MVP (2011) and a WAR of 14.6. His next four years with the Mets, he was a cornerstone piece on a World <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Series<\/a> team (and finished 18th in the MVP vote that year), then hit 30 homers (many out of the lead-off spot) for a playoff team in 2016, and he had a 10.1 WAR as a Met.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. Darryl Strawberry:<\/strong> We tend to think that Strawberry was far more of a presence on the Yankees teams he played for, even though in five years he played in just 32, 63, 11, 101 and 24 games and had a modest WAR of 3.0. But he did add a fearsome lefty element to some excellent teams and accepted his lot as a platoon player. There is no need to expand on his eight excellent years with the Mets (252 homers, 35.1 WAR).<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_15830400\"><img alt=\"Yankees\" data- data- height=\"441\" width=\"661\"><\/img><figcaption><span>Orlando Hernandez pitching for the Yankees in 2004.<\/span><span>Jeff Zelevansky<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>4. Orlando Hernandez:<\/strong> Easy to forget, but his two years with the Mets he was a steady and reliable piece of the rotation (18-12, 3.88 ERA) even if he did have an ill-timed injury on the eve of the \u201906 playoffs. His playoff credentials as a Yankee (9-3, 2.65) are staggering to behold.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5. Doc Gooden:<\/strong> Gooden\u2019s numbers with the Yankees were respectable if not overwhelming (24-14, 4.67 ERA), but his 1996 no-hitter is hard to overlook, and when paired with his Mets career deserves top-five status.<\/p>\n<p><strong>6. Carlos Beltran:<\/strong> Despite the faction of folks who won\u2019t ever forgive him for staring at strike three, he was an all-time Mets offensive player, and as a Yankee he was both an All-Star and an unquestioned leader.<\/p>\n<p><strong>7. Rickey Henderson:<\/strong> He was an All-Star all four of his full seasons with the Yankees and stole 93 bases in 1988. His one year with the Mets (1999), he was a catalyst to pushing them to the playoffs for the first time in 11 years with a .315\/.432\/.466 slash line.<\/p>\n<p><strong>8. Robin Ventura:<\/strong> A core element of some terrific Mets teams from 1999-2001 (and among the best Mets free-agent signings ever). It\u2019s easy to forget he was an All-Star with the Yankees in 2002, hitting 27 homers and driving in 93 runs while playing an ever-stellar third base.<\/p>\n<p><span><iframe loading=\"lazy\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/CpWyGSJMqlM?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;autohide=2&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent\" title=\"Video\" width=\"640\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>9. Bartolo Colon:<\/strong> He revived his career with the 2011 Yankees after a one-year PED suspension (8-10, 4.00 ERA) before becoming a folk hero in three years as a Met (44-34, 3.90)<\/p>\n<p><strong>10. Willie Randolph\/Rick Cerone (tie):<\/strong> Both had terrific runs with the Yankees in their primes, and both had notable one-year stays with the Mets toward the end of their careers.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Vacs_Whacks\"><\/span>Vac\u2019s Whacks<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Remember when the thing about baseball that made you most angry were trash cans and television monitors? That is rapidly becoming what we commonly call \u201cThe Golden Age.\u201d<\/p>\n<hr>\n<\/hr>\n<p>Two TV suggestions this week that I can\u2019t possibly recommend any more ardently: \u201cQuiz\u201d on AMC and \u201cSlow Burn\u201d on Epix. And I can\u2019t wait to dive into \u201cLaurel Canyon,\u201d at the suggestion of Christopher Russo.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<\/hr>\n<p>You know who I wish was available to put this nonsense between baseball owners and baseball players and this silly season of non-negotiation into proper perspective? Mr. Marvin Julian Miller.\n<\/p>\n<hr>\n<\/hr>\n<p>Nobody misses live team sports more than I do, but I have to say if I were a basketball player, the closer this whole bubble idea comes to fruition, the harder I have to look at what life inside that bubble for three months might actually mean.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Whack_Back_at_Vac\"><\/span>Whack Back at Vac<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Well, I knew that revisiting New York\u2019s all-time uniform numbers list would probably get some of you talking, and a lot of you writing \u2014 but even I couldn\u2019t have predicted the overwhelming response. Thank you for that. Thank you for caring. And thanks most of all for not holding back. This is the best part of my job.<\/p>\n<p>At the top, a mea culpa: I\u2019ll stand by just about all of my picks from 00-99, but there is one that I wish I had a mulligan (or, if you will, a do-over) on, and that\u2019s 22. I picked Dave DeBusschere. As Mike Pitonza, Jason Raimondo, Bob Weiss, Dan Hogan, Ron Rose, Abe Zuntz, Howard Loox, John Hagen, Frank Lofaro \u2014 and, honestly no fewer than 200 others \u2014 pointed out, that number belongs to Mike Bossy.<\/p>\n<p>(And it does. And it kills me: I grew up with Bossy\u2019s poster on my wall. Great as DeBusschere was \u2014 and he was \u2014 this one was a whiff. I also think I might need to revisit Scott Niedermayer over Rodney Hampton at 27.)<\/p>\n<p>There were plenty of offbeat picks \u2014 Joe Calesi campaigned for Eddie Giacomin over Pee Wee Reese at 1; John Hammersley says Pearl Monroe over Thurman Munson at 15; Robert Burnat (and others) say Don Newcombe over Jerry Koosman at 36, Bruce Zurlnick suggested D\u2019Brickshaw Ferguson over Larry Grantham at 60 \u2014 and three other numbers that generated the most suggestions:<\/p>\n<p>Many want Whitey Ford to at least be given a share at 16 with Frank Gifford. Many, many, many, actually \u2014 including Bill Gutterding, Vincent Dailey, Vin McArdle, Bill Zifchak, Danny Contartesi, Bruce Copp, Danny Contartesi, Carmine Fazzari.<\/p>\n<p>Robert Greeney, Norman Berk and Rick Bause offered Emlen Tunnell over Tug McGraw at 45. And among the dozens who thought Mariano Rivera should be given a share of hallowed 42 with Jackie Robinson were Jeff Hookey, Mel Gross, Gregg Laskoski, Ray Southard and Frank Boccicchio.<\/p>\n<p>Then there was Leo Kibler, among those not at all h<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>y to see Alex Rodriguez at 13: \u201cTo put that cheater in between Joe Namath and Gil Hodges is an absolute disgrace.\u201d\n            <\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: black;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2020\/06\/13\/mets-yankees-both-got-the-most-out-of-these-10-stars\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Source<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>If you want to read more Sports <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/news\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"2\" title=\"News\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">News<\/a> articles, you can visit our <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/general\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">General category.<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>if you want to watch Movies or Tv Shows go to <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/dizi.buradabiliyorum.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dizi.BuradaBiliyorum.Com<\/a> <\/span> for forums sites go to <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/forum.buradabiliyorum.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Forum.BuradaBiliyorum.Com<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;#Mets, Yankees both got the most out of these 10 stars&#8221; Claudell Washington died this week at age 65, and his passing inspired me to wonder aloud on Twitter where he might rank on the list of players who spent time in their career with both the Yankees and the Mets. 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