{"id":78460,"date":"2020-09-30T07:49:42","date_gmt":"2020-09-30T04:49:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/"},"modified":"2020-09-30T07:49:42","modified_gmt":"2020-09-30T04:49:42","slug":"biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"#Biden, Trump supporters debate the first presidential debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a3bef59a473c\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a3bef59a473c\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/#On_the_debate_over_Amy_Coney_Barrett\" >On the debate over Amy Coney Barrett:<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/#On_the_Affordable_Care_Act\" >On the Affordable Care Act:<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/#As_the_discussion_turned_to_COVID-19\" >As the discussion turned to COVID-19:<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/#On_Hunter_Biden\" >On Hunter Biden:<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/#On_climate_change\" >On climate change:<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/#Final_thoughts\" >Final thoughts:<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#Biden, Trump supporters debate the first presidential debate<\/strong>&#8221;<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/09\/Biden_Trump_Voters.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all\" \/><\/p>\n<div>\n                        <em>How did President Trump\u2019s and Joe Biden\u2019s supporters react to Tuesday night\u2019s debate? We asked two voters to debate the debate in real-time. Rhonda Kundrat is a 47-year-old non-practicing attorney and mother of three in Chesapeake, Va. She supports the president for re-election. Stacy Grossman is a 49-year-old lawyer and mother of one in Westchester, who\u2019s rooting for the ex-veep. Here\u2019s a selection of their online discussion.<\/em><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"On_the_debate_over_Amy_Coney_Barrett\"><\/span>On the debate over Amy Coney Barrett:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> How they treated Garland? Can we discuss Kavanaugh?<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Can we discuss Christine Blasey Ford?<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Yes we can discuss Ford. Every one of her claims were dismissed \u2014 still waiting for the evidence.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"On_the_Affordable_Care_Act\"><\/span>On the Affordable Care Act:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> I have a pre-existing condition \u2014 Obamacare was a disaster, we were not able to see the doctor of my choice. That was a huge factor when deciding to stay with military healthcare versus Obamacare. By the way, all of the hospital union workers supporting Obamacare were never put under Obamacare. My mother was part of the 1199 union in New York and has a gold plan that is fully paid for.<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> I know many self employed people who wouldn\u2019t have insurance if it weren\u2019t for Obamacare.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Continuing to call Senator Warren \u201cPocahontas\u201d is just so disrespectful.<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> She\u2019s not Pocahontas \u2013 She\u2019s Faux-cahontas. There is a difference.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> 47 years. As long as I have been alive Joe has done nada\u2026<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> That\u2019s hardly true, Rhonda.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"As_the_discussion_turned_to_COVID-19\"><\/span>As the discussion turned to COVID-19:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Hmm COVID time. Let me think about this \u2014 Jan 6., 2020, Trump\u2019s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/trip-and-travel\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"10\" title=\"Trip &amp; Travel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">travel<\/a> notice on Wuhan, China, before any U.S. infection arose.<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Trump is in a big hole here. He refuses to listen to doctors, manipulates the CDC, and refuses to encourage the country to wear masks. Anyone who disagrees with Trump is \u201cconfused\u201d and \u201cmistaken.\u201d<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Joe wears a mask in the basement.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Taxes \u2014 Trump broke no laws and he took advantage of every legal deduction that was available to business people \u2014 again signed by the Obama administration.<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Trump committed tax fraud multiple times, and probably did again now. He\u2019s just better than most at deflecting and delaying.<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Please name one tax law he broke? Please name it. I will wait.<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> If proven, paying his daughter a consulting fee could be fraud. And let\u2019s wait to see how his tax returns are reconciled with his loan <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>lications.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"On_Hunter_Biden\"><\/span>On Hunter Biden:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Trump is very skilled at repeated unproven and discredited allegations. Move on.<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Skilled at repeating unproven and discredited allegations? Oh, like the Russia DNC sham?<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Can\u2019t answer about his own son. Wow, I would love $50,000 a month.<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Enough about Hunter Biden. What about Jared, Ivanka and the rest of the Trumps in the White House?<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Hunter was discharged and had no experience. Hunter couldn\u2019t get a security clearance or even a job at McDonalds.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> So will Biden go into a fetal position back to his bunker?<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Biden is standing his ground, and we\u2019re just about two-thirds through. He\u2019s presidential.<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Presidential? Joe is like a used car salesman. Will try to sell you a car you already own.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> When the stock market goes up, it does not mean new jobs.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Poor Joe is shivering. Does he need a Red Bull?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Democrats refuse to answer the question about Chicago. New York is back to the zoo of the 1970s.<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> I\u2019m in New York and that\u2019s not true.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Suburbs are not in trouble. The Biden followers proposed opening up low-income housing in suburbs \u2026 No way.<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Biden is not in support of defunding the police.<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> Biden is lost for words.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> How to shut Biden up? ask him a question requiring a factual answer.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"On_climate_change\"><\/span>On climate change:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> California has been run by crazy tree huggers for years and they still can\u2019t seem to get it right. Maybe save some of the land and stop building huge mansions in areas that are already overpopulated. Shouldn\u2019t we be freezing according to Al Gore by now?<br \/><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> I wish our country would come together on global warming. Just because we disagree about some issues doesn\u2019t mean we have to be divided on everything. As Trump would say, \u201cSad.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Final_thoughts\"><\/span>Final thoughts:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Grossman:<\/strong> Both candidates held their own, though it was a hot mess. Trump certainly didn\u2019t prove that Biden doesn\u2019t have the acuity to be the President. Biden let Trump show his true, angry colors. Biden ended very strong with climate change and election integrity. I can\u2019t imagine there are many undecided voters at this point, so hopefully, Biden is motivating more people than Trump to get out to vote.<br \/><strong>Kundrat:<\/strong> I think Trump was Trump and destroyed Biden. Biden basically can appear competent just by remembering where he was \u2014 not a big mountain to climb. But as far as substance, Trump was beyond prepared and made Biden look like the always a bridesmaid never a bride candidate. Biden was despicable \u2014 from the name-calling, to the insults of \u201cclown\u201d \u201cracist\u201d etc. He was not presidential at all and needs to return to his basement.\n            <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">For forums sites go to <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/forum.buradabiliyorum.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Forum.BuradaBiliyorum.Com<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>If you want to read more <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/news\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"2\" title=\"News\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">News<\/a> articles, you can visit our <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/news\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">News category.<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: black;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2020\/09\/30\/biden-trump-supporters-debate-the-first-presidential-debate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Source<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;#Biden, Trump supporters debate the first presidential debate&#8221; How did President Trump\u2019s and Joe Biden\u2019s supporters react to Tuesday night\u2019s debate? 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