{"id":82605,"date":"2020-10-06T04:16:04","date_gmt":"2020-10-06T01:16:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/en.buradabiliyorum.com\/20-things-we-learned-from-the-willow-creek-commentary\/"},"modified":"2020-10-06T04:16:04","modified_gmt":"2020-10-06T01:16:04","slug":"20-things-we-learned-from-the-willow-creek-commentary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/20-things-we-learned-from-the-willow-creek-commentary\/","title":{"rendered":"#20 Things We Learned from the &#8216;Willow Creek&#8217; Commentary"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2e13c586c9d\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2e13c586c9d\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/20-things-we-learned-from-the-willow-creek-commentary\/#Willow_Creek_2013\" >Willow Creek (2013)<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/20-things-we-learned-from-the-willow-creek-commentary\/#Best_in_Context-Free_Commentary\" >Best in Context-Free Commentary<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/20-things-we-learned-from-the-willow-creek-commentary\/#Final_Thoughts\" >Final Thoughts<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;<strong>#20 Things We Learned from the &#8216;Willow Creek&#8217; Commentary<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<div>\n<aside class=\"mashsb-container mashsb-main mashsb-stretched\">\n                <\/aside>\n<p><!-- Share buttons by mashshare.net - Version: 3.7.7--><i data-stringify-type=\"italic\">Welcome to\u00a0<\/i><b data-stringify-type=\"bold\"><i data-stringify-type=\"italic\">Commentary Commentary,<\/i><\/b><i data-stringify-type=\"italic\"> where we sit and listen to filmmakers talk about their work, then share the most interesting parts. In this edition, Rob Hunter heads into the woods to listen to the sounds of nature, the screams of terror, and the Willow Creek commentary by Bobcat Goldthwait<\/i>.<\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<p>Good <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/watch-movies-tv-seriess\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"8\" title=\"Watch Movies &amp; TV Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">movies<\/a> about Bigfoot are few and far between, and the great ones are even rarer. No one expected <strong>Bobcat Goldthwait<\/strong> to deliver one of the best, but it h<a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/download-scripts-themes-apps\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"9\" title=\"Download Scripts &amp; Themes &amp; Apps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">app<\/a>ened anyway with 2013\u2019s <strong><em>Willow Creek<\/em><\/strong>. The film is a faux-doc of sorts that follows a young couple into \u201cBigfoot country\u201d \u2014 the deep woods of Northern California \u2014 on a weekend excursion, and their playful search for the beast grows less funny by the minute. Happily, it also grows more frightening and unsettling.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ll be dropping our list of the best Bigfoot movies this month, but in the meantime, I decided to pay this particular gem a revisit. It holds up, so I also gave a listen to the commentary. Happily, it\u2019s pretty entertaining too. Keep reading to see what I heard on the commentary for\u2026<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Willow_Creek_2013\"><\/span>Willow Creek (2013)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\">Commentators: Bobcat Goldthwait (co-director, writer), Alexie Gilmore (actor), Bryce Johnson (actor)<\/p>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\"><strong>1.<\/strong> The film opens with some missing audio by design, but Goldthwait more than once experienced film festival screenings where projectionists would stop the film believing there to be an audio issue in need of fixing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\"><strong>2.<\/strong> The idea for <em>Willow Creek<\/em> originated when Goldthwait visited the real Willow Creek with plans on making a \u201cChristopher Guest-like\u201d movie set during a Bigfoot convention. He decided that making fun of believers \u201cwasn\u2019t a nice thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\"><strong>3.<\/strong> The script was essentially a twenty-five-page outline. He figures nearly eighty percent of their dialogue is improvised.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4.<\/strong> Goldtwait\u2019s reflection is visible in the rear window of the car at 5:35 as she was laying down in the back seat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5.<\/strong> Johnson was already a believer and highly interested in ideas like bigfoot and aliens, so the film was a great delight for him. Does Gilmore believe? \u201cNope.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>6.<\/strong> The two leads met each other on the car ride from Los Angeles to Northern California, but some of the real people they come across believed that they were a married couple.<\/p>\n<p><strong>7.<\/strong> The \u201cmissing\u201d woman on the flyer is actually the film\u2019s local casting agent. \u201cShe\u2019s the naked lady later on at the end of the movie.\u201d She told Goldthwait after filming the nude scene where she\u2019s covered in cinnamon and chocolate, \u201cwell, that\u2019s off my bucket list.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>8.<\/strong> The Early Bird restaurant serves burgers that \u201ctaste like shit\u201d according to Gilmore. \u201cThe Early Bird was kind enough to sign releases, and their food is delicious,\u201d says Goldthwait quickly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>9.<\/strong> Goldthwait isn\u2019t actually a fan of found footage films because \u201cwho found this footage, you know what I mean, and made a movie? I\u2019m sorry your family got raped to death, but I think if I re-cut it there\u2019s a tremendous picture here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>10.<\/strong> He prefers the idea of bigfoot being in the viewers\u2019 mind rather than clearly on screen and thinks actually seeing the creature lessens the terror.<\/p>\n<p><strong>11.<\/strong> Goldthwait describes <em>Harry and the Hendersons<\/em> (1987) as \u201ca pussification of bigfoot.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>12.<\/strong> The police were called after they filmed the final scenes with Gilmore and Johnson screaming at the top of their lungs. They came to investigate but were satisfied that they were just a bunch of weirdos making a movie.<\/p>\n<p><strong>13.<\/strong> It\u2019s not mentioned in the film itself, but a handful of side characters including the missing woman and the angry man in the road are wearing the same necklace. \u201cI just wanted to make it possible there is a connection with the people in town.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>14.<\/strong> He knew they were making \u201cThe Blairsquatch Project\u201d but also knew it would be different enough. Too often filmmakers try so hard to avoid comparisons to that innovator that they neglect the elements of <em>The Blair Witch Project<\/em> (1999) that make it work so well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>15.<\/strong> It costs \u201cfour grand\u201d for a raccoon in Los Angeles, but Goldthwait\u2019s daughter was able to secure a deal by using a rescue. He also pet it when the handler wasn\u2019t looking.<\/p>\n<p><strong>16.<\/strong> The biggest film influences for Goldthwait on this movie were <em>Grizzly Man<\/em> (2005) and <em>Paper Heart<\/em> (2009) (and obviously the aforementioned <em>Blair Witch<\/em>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>17.<\/strong> The big tent scene left the actors unaware how long it would last and what exactly they would hear outside. Goldthwait was among the group outside making noises, and he had a headset to listen to the couple\u2019s dialogue inside so he could react accordingly. Adding to the atmosphere, they filmed the tent scene in the actual campground where Roger Patterson &amp; Bob Gimlin camped the night before recording their infamous footage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>18.<\/strong> \u201cNow with Netflix and all the other digital platforms I don\u2019t think people listen to commentaries much, which is a drag.\u201d Sadly true, but some of us still listen, Bobcat, so keep \u2019em coming!<\/p>\n<p><strong>19.<\/strong> He didn\u2019t give them a heads up that he was rolling a boulder down the hill in front of them. \u201cI was ad-libbing too,\u201d he explains.<\/p>\n<p><strong>20.<\/strong> They made bigfoot prints in the riverbed for the film, and he felt bad that they wrapped filming of <em>Willow Creek<\/em> and left without erasing them. \u201cMore fake evidence!\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Best_in_Context-Free_Commentary\"><\/span>Best in Context-Free Commentary<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote\">\u201cThis was actually terrifying to shoot.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cShould I reveal that we so lovingly called her \u2018cinnamon tits?&#8217;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn Germany, they didn\u2019t laugh at any of the jokes, but then they laugh when it gets violent at the end.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was Bobcat\u2019s idea to have Lexi jerk off Bigfoot.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019d much rather be eaten by a bear than talk to the <a href=\"https:\/\/buradabiliyorum.com\/en\/category\/general\/\" data-internallinksmanager029f6b8e52c=\"3\" title=\"General\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">general<\/a> public.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cRemember when the cops came?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt least we didn\u2019t film in Herpes Lake.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt bothers me that I don\u2019t have a commentary for <em>Shakes the Clown<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"graf graf--h3\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Final_Thoughts\"><\/span>Final Thoughts<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p\"><em>Willow Creek<\/em> remains a good time for fans of slow builds, found footage-ish formats, and creepy shenanigans in the woods. Goldthwait\u2019s commentary reveals a compassionate filmmaker with some interesting ideas, and being a naturally entertaining and funny guy doesn\u2019t hurt either. 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